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 Posted:   Oct 19, 2020 - 7:34 AM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

Yes. For some reason John Scott is VERY protective of this score and wasn't willing to collaborate when La-La Land put out the soundtrack on CD, thus leaving them only to do the original LP presentation.

Now you can basically forget ever getting any expansion because Warner Bros. isn't really interested in licensing anything and has become rather impossible to deal with.

J

 
 Posted:   Oct 19, 2020 - 9:08 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

Does anyone know if there is a separate music only channel on any Bluray or DVD releases of this film?

I'd love to enjoy the score in its entirety without sound FX and dialogue.

I hadn't remembered how harmonically daring Scott was/is. His music is bold and balances traditional technique with some dissonances that remind me of Bartok's work.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 19, 2020 - 9:15 AM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

Does anyone know if there is a separate music only channel on any Bluray or DVD releases of this film?

I'd love to enjoy the score in its entirety without sound FX and dialogue.

I hadn't remembered how harmonically daring Scott was/is. His music is bold and balances traditional technique with some dissonances that remind me of Bartok's work.


No, there isn't.

 
 Posted:   Oct 19, 2020 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

Does anyone know if there is a separate music only channel on any Bluray or DVD releases of this film?

I'd love to enjoy the score in its entirety without sound FX and dialogue.

I hadn't remembered how harmonically daring Scott was/is. His music is bold and balances traditional technique with some dissonances that remind me of Bartok's work.


No, there isn't.


frown

Drat.. Oh well. I'm just glad what exists was re-issued since I'd long since lost my record of this magnificent score.

 
 Posted:   Oct 19, 2020 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

I revising and updating my custom John Scott compilation, adding in tracks from "Final Countdown", and in listening again to "Greystoke" I am always impressed by his work on this film. The score is a real delight from start to finish, so much melodicism and rich orchestrations.

 
 Posted:   Oct 19, 2020 - 3:59 PM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

Now you can basically forget ever getting any expansion because Warner Bros. isn't really interested in licensing anything and has become rather impossible to deal with.

This isn't true.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 19, 2020 - 7:01 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Forget Greystoke... before Scott did the Tarzan movie, he had warmed up the year before by doing the score for a movie with another mighty, bare-chested hero... YOR!
And I actually play the Yor CD a lot more often than the inadequate Greystoke album:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFnbBqddd_E

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 19, 2020 - 7:21 PM   
 By:   Reeve   (Member)

Unfortunately Basil; “Greystoke: The Legend Of Tarzan” – has not had an expanded CD release… and – that is what we are trying to achieve here… we’ll “forget about Greystoke” – once we get some sort of expansion…
“Yor: The Hunter From The Future” – has indeed been expanded already –
https://buysoundtrax.myshopify.com/products/yor-the-hunter-from-the-future-original-soundtrack-by-john-scott-guido-and-maurizio-de-angelis
...and I am grateful for it… but the “Greystoke” score has not – so please don’t say – "forget about this masterpiece" – they are two entirely different scores…

It’s like saying forget about “Greystoke” because “King Kong Lives” has been released…

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 19, 2020 - 8:50 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

Now you can basically forget ever getting any expansion because Warner Bros. isn't really interested in licensing anything and has become rather impossible to deal with.

This isn't true.


Apparently my understanding of the situation was wrong. I stand corrected.

J

 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2020 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

David, there’s additional score available here on YouTube, thanks to FSMer bobbengan who knows Scott well and got his permission to share music from the full recording (read his notes on YT): https://youtu.be/LSXss5OfMm0

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2020 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

David, there’s additional score available here on YouTube, thanks to FSMer bobbengan who knows Scott well and got his permission to share music from the full recording (read his notes on YT): https://youtu.be/LSXss5OfMm0

Yavar


Wow that is one terrific suite! I hope someone can convince Scott to possibly make this a deluxe download purchase.. the overhead would be far less and if it was at a lossless quality, I'm sure most of us would prefer that over nothing... there is so much exquisite material missing from the commercial release (though I have to give props to LaLaLand for a great job on their release- I'm so glad I bought it when I did because it's out of print apparently).

I think I need to personally thank bobbengan for this. The suite contains all of the cues I dearly wished for from the commercial release in 1984. Fantastic quality as well.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2020 - 7:27 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

David, there’s additional score available here on YouTube, thanks to FSMer bobbengan who knows Scott well and got his permission to share music from the full recording (read his notes on YT): https://youtu.be/LSXss5OfMm0

Yavar


Did he really get John Scott's permission to post these things?

I have doubts.

J

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2020 - 3:48 AM   
 By:   Reeve   (Member)

Absolutely Phenomenal! And the sound quality – what can say – WOW!

My favourite part of the suite is between 4:55 – and – 7:00. I would probably call it the “Black Panther” cue…
It is my favourite part of the score – (maybe because it was unavailable – until now!)
I am also hopelessly in love with all the unreleased music.

Sorry to go off topic here:
One question I do not understand is; once an orchestra records music – why can’t the music get released?
I mean – consumers will buy it. Unfortunately; generations of film goers who were interested in this score back in 1984 – have either left us; or sadly – lost interest.
The music should get released at the time it is recorded… the studios can make more money that way - IF - they release it immediately - then say – wait around 30 years… look at the way technology has ruined the music (and movie) business…

When was the last time you saw our society line up for 3 hours to watch a – “Blockbuster” – movie?
I mean; they can’t wait two minutes – without bitching; when waiting in line at the registers!
People have become less patient; and technology is to blame for that…

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2020 - 4:05 AM   
 By:   brucepatterson   (Member)

David, there’s additional score available here on YouTube, thanks to FSMer bobbengan who knows Scott well and got his permission to share music from the full recording (read his notes on YT): https://youtu.be/LSXss5OfMm0

Yavar


Excellent thanks for this!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2020 - 4:27 AM   
 By:   ROBERT Z   (Member)

Thanks, a very good old fashion score.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2020 - 8:07 PM   
 By:   Reeve   (Member)

In order to keep this thread active - a little while longer... before it disappears for another 10 years…

I would like to add that I accomplished a simple task of figuring out exactly – how much new music is included in the Suite titled: “John Scott: Greystoke Symphony (1984), A Romance Of The Jungle / Royal Philharmonic” – and I figured out; that there is approximately 21 minutes of new material… and when you combine – (approximately) – 33 minutes of the album release; you get around 54 minutes of music… which is basically; how much music score – “an average film” gets…

If you use software; like say – Audacity – you should be able to separate the cues; and be able to create your own “expanded” soundtrack presentation! The sound quality is almost identical to the 'La La Land Records' release; so it shouldn’t be jarring when the tracks flow from cue to another.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2020 - 7:56 PM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

In an effort to save the rest of us time, would you care to elaborate which cues are new, and where they should placed in relation to the existing album cues, and suggested titles for the new music?

I, for one, would appreciate this information and your efforts.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2020 - 4:59 PM   
 By:   Reeve   (Member)

Hi George;
If I am wrong with some of my information; then correct me… as I didn’t go back to the film to check out the scenes – and some titles – I simply chose – because I needed to name them – you can choose my titles – or make up your own… however; at least – here – you should get – “an idea” –

For example – I named one of the tracks – “The Cube” – as I believe that the music can fit the scene fairly well… the scene happens in the tree house when the teenage Tarzan first discovers the difference between a – “boy” – and an – “ape”…

My cue titles are spontaneous…and also – I did not have the time – (yet) – to sequence the cues in any particular order…


00:00 – 01:40 – Overture

01:40 – 02:59 – Child Of The Apes – (all the baby scenes)

02:59 – 04:18 – UNRELEASED: Child Of The Apes – (the scene continues – film version)

04:19 – 07:00 – UNRELEASED: The Black Panther Scene

07:00 – 10:09 – UNRELEASED: Plucked Strings Score – could be “Swinging Through The Trees” – not featured in movie – Leads into…

10:09 – 10:54 – Child Of The Apes – (where we left off previously – “the baby scenes”) – Leads into…

10:54 – 11:44 – Tarzan, Lord Of The Apes – (the last segment when he becomes the ruler)

11:44 – 12:58 – UNRELEASED: England Mansion – (opening – when we are about to leave England; and the last words are – “he lost the race” – the carriages pull over)

12:58 – 14:27 – Tarzan Leaves The Jungle

14:27 – 16:31 – UNRELEASED: Main Theme – Was most probably the original Overture or perhaps the Main Title – not featured in movie

16:31 – 18:17 – UNRELEASED: Sad Goodbyes – Based On Main Theme – not featured in movie – Leads into…

18:17 – 19:38 – UNRELEASED: Civilization – not featured in movie

19:38 – 20:40 – UNRELEASED: The Jungle – not featured in movie

20:40 – 22:48 – UNRELEASED: End Title – Based On Main Theme – not featured in movie…

22:48 – 24:44 – Catastrophe – (up to the beach scenes where we see the bodies lying motionless)

24:44 – 25:51 – UNRELEASED: Tarzan’s Mother

25:51 – 26:25 – UNRELEASED: Growing Up

26:25 – 28:33 – UNRELEASED: The Cube

28:33 – 31:22 – The Family

31:22 – 34:30 – Return To The Jungle

Once again; I do not expect the information posted to be correct; this was simply created – by me; in order to distinguish the tracks. If anyone can come up with authentic track names – or knows more information; then please correct my errors – by posting some information. Thank You.

 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2020 - 6:26 PM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

Thank you, Reeve.

 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2020 - 10:36 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

24:44 – 25:51 – UNRELEASED: Tarzan’s Mother

That's when she is killed by a pygmy who is summarily dispatched by Greystoke and who wails over his mom's body until it turns into his signature (for the film) roar. I always loved that cue. Was sad it wasn't on the official release, but glad it's presented in this suite.

 
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