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 Posted:   May 1, 2010 - 4:45 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

from the liner notes of the new LLL release.

"...this marks the first ever release of the ENTIRE [EMPHASIS MINE]
score in stereo."

Track 28 (alternate)
" this track was chosen to conclude the score presentation as it is the only surviving stereo recording of the End title"

LALALAND we have a problem.
Not only do the liner notes contradict each other and the promotional materials for the album (http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=67954&forumID=1&archive=0),
but they are further misleading - the Main Title is not in stereo either (it sounds as if some reverb might have been added to the low end to produce a 'phantom' left & right soundfield)

Now, I am happy for this release but I think i can speak for all fans of this score when i say it is preciscely the two tracks mentioned above that fans so dearly wanted in stereo.
If, there is no stereo tracks extant for the main & End title, why did you not say so, and explain why NOT?

I look forward to Jeff Bond and Mike Mattesino replies

bruce

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2010 - 5:28 PM   
 By:   steb74   (Member)

It sounds like there are also a few other cues that fall into this fake stereo category.

Sorry, I must emphasise that I'm not using the word 'fake' as means of an attack but simply just to describe how I imagine the source files were processed to achieve the stereo effect, so any info on this would be most welcome and appreciated.

This score is a personal favourite of mine and it's re-release is most welcome, cheers.

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2010 - 7:01 PM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

I blame the Warren Commission...

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2010 - 7:10 PM   
 By:   That Bloke   (Member)

It's Gremlins I tell ya... Gremlins!

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2010 - 7:12 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Now, I am happy for this release but I think i can speak for all fans of this score when i say it is preciscely the two tracks mentioned above that fans so dearly wanted in stereo.

I haven't ordered the LLL yet but I'm going to. Incidentally, there is a superb re-recording of the main title in stereo by John Debney & the Royal Scottish National Orchestra:

http://www.varesesarabande.com/details.asp?pid=VSD%2D6047

Edit: here's a working link:

https://www.amazon.com/Great-Composers-Williams-Score-Anthology/dp/B00000JHDK/

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2010 - 7:18 PM   
 By:   steb74   (Member)

Gremlins and the Warren Commission ......fantastic, problem solved! roll eyes

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2010 - 7:25 PM   
 By:   AHerrera83   (Member)

Well, since LLL's original post included the following line: "For this release, the 2" 24-track tape containing the original 35mm 6-track mag was transferred into Pro Tools, and restored and mixed with the advantages of another decade's advance in sound processing technology." I always assumed LLL took the original elements and created the stereo in this new mix.

Haven't received my copy yet, but looking forward to it!

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2010 - 11:59 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2010 - 4:06 AM   
 By:   Henry Jones   (Member)

Just my 2 cents: as the FSM release is OOP and as La-La Land re-releases this one, I'm most than happy as I am one of those who missed the FSM release.

I'm sure this score got the best sounding presentation that the talented Mike Matessino could have done...

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2010 - 6:10 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

Dude. C'est le ton qui fait la musique.

(Never thought I had to post that on a film music board nonetheless.)

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2010 - 7:51 AM   
 By:   Henry Jones   (Member)

Dude. C'est le ton qui fait la musique.

(Never thought I had to post that on a film music board nonetheless.)


Didn't get it... Que vient faire le protocole dans cette discussion ?

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2010 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   BigMacGyver2000   (Member)

I have not received the cd yet but if its true that they advertised this as full stereo when its really just some tracks in true stereo and others in fake stereo then its really kind of sad. Its sad because they could have advertised it as "partly stereo" or "mostly stereo" and i would have bought it anyways because first, its still an improvement towards the fsm edition and second, its still interesting for people like myself who don't own the fsm edition. But let's hear what MV has to say about it before turning this into a witch hunt.

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2010 - 8:55 AM   
 By:   betenoir   (Member)

Egads. Bitch, bitch, bitch.

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2010 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

Egads. Bitch, bitch, bitch.

In this case, I think it's more than justified to complain.

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2010 - 9:15 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

I have not received the cd

Here is a novel idea......


Wait until you've heard the CD for yourself and then offer an intelligent and INFORMED comment on it...

Instead of posting something based on 2nd or 3nd hand information and heresay with the benefit of hearing it for yourself...


That would seem to be a much better way to go.

Just a thought....


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2010 - 9:19 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)



Haha

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2010 - 9:39 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)


Haha



Hehehe. I have the CD and can't even tell if it's mono or not, just been looking for an excuse to post that pic here.

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2010 - 9:53 AM   
 By:   BigMacGyver2000   (Member)

"Here is a novel idea......


Wait until you've heard the CD for yourself and then offer an intelligent and INFORMED comment on it...

Instead of posting something based on 2nd or 3nd hand information and heresay with the benefit of hearing it for yourself...


That would seem to be a much better way to go.

Just a thought....


Ford A. Thaxton "

Well, i don't really understand why you are criticising me as i seem to be the only one actually saying what you told me here and trying to defend lalaland. It looks like you did not read my post with the necessary attention and especially the last sentence. Or maybe i did not express myself properly, so in that case: sorry!

Anyways, bottomline is that there seems to be something about this release that requires further attention and clarification from all sides.

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2010 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Anyways, bottomline is that there seems to be something about this release that requires further attention and clarification from all sides.

You missed my point..


Why not hear the CD for yourself AND THEN COMMENT?


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2010 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   BigMacGyver2000   (Member)

Well, the matter certainly warrants discussion even if one has not heard the cd yet because i have heard from several people who i trust (not just those two in this topic) about this problem, so i felt like expressing my own concerns. But as soon as i receive the cd it is guaranteed that i will be able to identify fake stereo wherever it may be. I will listen very closely.

 
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