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 Posted:   Sep 22, 2008 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Who Were They?/Underground/The Lens/Help Me:


No Pain:


Find Marek/Quick Action:


To Castlegard:


Work To Do/Castlegard:


Our Interpreter/Nick Of Time/Lost Marker/Four Hours:


The Rooftop:


A Hole In The Wall:


Move On:


Ambushed/Lost Marker/Castle La Roque:


The Mural:


To My Friends/End Credits:




More to come...

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2008 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

did you check jerrygoldsmithonline? few more clips there

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2008 - 9:52 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

did you check jerrygoldsmithonline? few more clips there

Yep, I've seen those. I'm focusing on different areas of the film.
(They did "Setting up" and "Final Battle")

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2008 - 10:01 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

It would be great to see the actual version Goldsmith worked on as a feature on the dvd (even a workprint would've been nice).

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2008 - 10:21 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Yeah. I'd love to see it.The main difference really is the opening. It was totally changed. Aside from that, Goldsmith's score fits in about 90% of the time.
So, it wouldn't be that different.

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2008 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

"I'll Come / No Pain" is now online.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2008 - 10:57 AM   
 By:   Jostein_H   (Member)

Pretty cool work! I always liked the No Pain cue. I don't think Timeline is a particularly great score, it's fairly good though and this is interesting to see.

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2008 - 6:15 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

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 Posted:   Sep 22, 2008 - 6:34 PM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

The main difference really is the opening. It was totally changed. Aside from that, Goldsmith's score fits in about 90% of the time.

I will never forgive Dick Donner for throwing all JG score out and getting mr Tyler noise in, specially if 90% already worked.

They should have contacted you! smile

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2008 - 6:45 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

lol! thanks!
that's the ultimate compliment!

It is a shame. From what I can tell, the beginning (The Dig) and some of the father-son stuff was all redone, but the rest works (as you'll see) and the little bits that were slightly trimmed can be fixed with some simple little edits. Then again, Gloldsmith probably didn't want some music editor making slices in his stuff. Tyler's is serviceable. I don't hate it. I just was always curious to see Goldsmith's vision of the movie, the way he spots it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2008 - 12:38 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

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 Posted:   Sep 23, 2008 - 1:13 AM   
 By:   MikeJ   (Member)

Good job, Muto! I got goose bumps hearing Find Marek against the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2008 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

All look and sound great with Goldsmith's music. Great job Mutant!

I really don't like Richard Donner for doing what he did.

After Goldsmith won the Oscar for music for Donner's THE OMEN, you'd think the word "loyalty" and "appreciation" and actions of "going to the mat" and "making it work" might have entered Donner's brain. What a way to be treated just before your passing.

Dick

Donner. His loss.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2008 - 1:49 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Mutant, I've always been curious: Are you doing these things for some kind of research or is it just a....well, "hobby" of sorts?

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2008 - 4:22 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Mutant, I've always been curious: Are you doing these things for some kind of research or is it just a....well, "hobby" of sorts?

It's a labour of love for me.
I've always been obsessed with trying to match up rejected scores to their films.
I can't express to you the extreme satisfaction I feel after figuring out a scene and watching it unfold for the first time.
The second best feeling is when other film score fans (like you guys!) watch and enjoy my clips!

So, yeah I guess it's a hobby...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2008 - 4:31 PM   
 By:   vinylscrubber   (Member)

Somehow, I have always managed to avoid seeing this film, having heard the wonderful Goldsmith score and just plain not being able to bring myself to watch this film with the Tyler replacement score.

Now, having seen these clips with the Goldsmith, I don't think I ever will be able to accept the Tyler. This truly is Goldsmith's last great score. When Goldsmith refused to do a rescore,
Donner might have better chosen to bring Joel McNeely on (he did such a great job supplanting JG on AIR FORCE ONE) to do the patch work on the Goldsmith
score, just to preserve the stuff that still worked with the new edit. This has such emotional weight compared to the few scenes I've seen with Tyler's score.

And, I fully admit to my prejudice in favor of Goldsmith.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2008 - 4:50 PM   
 By:   Freejack   (Member)

Would love to see ALIEN NATION with Jerry's
rejected score.

It's a fairly forgotten movie and much of
it has to do with Curt Sobel's replacement score,
Jerry's score is much more powerful.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2008 - 5:05 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Would love to see ALIEN NATION with Jerry's
rejected score.

It's a fairly forgotten movie and much of
it has to do with Curt Sobel's replacement score,
Jerry's score is much more powerful.


I've done it already and believe me, it wasn't easy. I did it last year or so and posted them here and youtube. After a few months, FOX sent me a nasty email and removed them (and told me not to re-upload them) I might fight it (fair use), but for now, I don't want to risk losing my channel. Paramount and Warner don't seem to mind.

They were great though, I'd really like to share them, but... frown


By the way guys, I just finished another Timeline clip and it's one of the best yet: the "Rooftop" scenes. It will be online within the hour.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2008 - 5:31 PM   
 By:   Freejack   (Member)

Would love to see ALIEN NATION with Jerry's
rejected score.

It's a fairly forgotten movie and much of
it has to do with Curt Sobel's replacement score,
Jerry's score is much more powerful.


I've done it already and believe me, it wasn't easy. I did it last year or so and posted them here and youtube. After a few months, FOX sent me a nasty email and removed them (and told me not to re-upload them) I might fight it (fair use), but for now, I don't want to risk losing my channel. Paramount and Warner don't seem to mind.

They were great though, I'd really like to share them, but... frown
endquote]

I can only imagine how Track 2 from the Varese Club CD "think its called (Out Back)" would sound with the final film-mix in the opening chase.
Those heavy synth drums and the on screen action, Ohhh I'm getting goosebumps even thinking about it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2008 - 5:52 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Would love to see ALIEN NATION with Jerry's
rejected score.

It's a fairly forgotten movie and much of
it has to do with Curt Sobel's replacement score,
Jerry's score is much more powerful.
I've done it already and believe me, it wasn't easy. I did it last year or so and posted them here and youtube. After a few months, FOX sent me a nasty email and removed them (and told me not to re-upload them) I might fight it (fair use), but for now, I don't want to risk losing my channel. Paramount and Warner don't seem to mind.

They were great though, I'd really like to share them, but... frown
endquote]

I can only imagine how Track 2 from the Varese Club CD "think its called (Out Back)" would sound with the final film-mix in the opening chase.
Those heavy synth drums and the on screen action, Ohhh I'm getting goosebumps even thinking about it.



That scene turned out pretty damn cool

 
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