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 Posted:   Jun 28, 2022 - 8:26 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Yes, I was always gonna come back to this one.
What a fantastic debut score.


Was To Die For (IMDb claims 1988) not his debut score, Kev? (Did Magdalene sit on a shelf for a couple years before being released, or something?)

I haven't heard it but there's a 9.5 minute suite on the Silva compilation, Vampire Circus: The Return of Dracula:
https://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/59253/To+Die+For

Such a command of style and structure, so early in his career.
Some of the Christmas vibes in this score are truly beautiful and there's a lovely rendition of Silent Night and once again, his use of choir is sublime. I would say it's heavenly.
There's no footprint of it at all on YouTube, as far as I can tell, so you're just gonna have to take my word for it on this one.


Or they could seek out and buy the lovely Intrada album! It's quite affordable secondhand:
https://www.discogs.com/release/3431280-Cliff-Eidelman-Magdalene-Original-Motion-Picture-Soundtrack

Have you seen the film on this one, Kev, and can you comment about whether there's any worthy unreleased music?

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2022 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

"Was To Die For (IMDb claims 1988) not his debut score, Kev? (Did Magdalene sit on a shelf for a couple years before being released, or something?)"
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I know you can't trust wiki, but I assumed it was his first score via this...

"Eidelman broke into film scoring at the age of 22 when a performance recording of one of the two concert music commissions, the ballet Once Upon a Ruler and Celebration Symphony Overture he composed while a student Santa Monica City College reached director Monica Teuber. She was so impressed that she asked him to write some music based on the reading of her script. Eidelman composed eleven pieces and recorded the music at his home studio while still a student of music composition at the University of Southern California. Teuber hired him to write his first film score, Magdalene (1988), which starred Nastassja Kinski. The young composer took full advantage of this opportunity, launching his career with a huge 75 minute score. At only 22 years of age, Eidelman conducted the Munich Symphony using a 110 piece orchestra, 60 piece choir and 30 piece children's choir"
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"Have you seen the film on this one, Kev, and can you comment about whether there's any worthy unreleased music?"
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No, I never did see this film and as you can see from wiki above, there's quite a bit of music missing from the Intrada CD, which would also benefit from a sonic upgrade.


 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2022 - 8:42 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Hmm...so maybe Magdalene was actually done in 1988 then, and To Die For was maybe his 2nd film score?

I don't see anything above (including a link) re: missing music...

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2022 - 8:52 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

It says he wrote a 75 minute score and I think the Intrada CD is around 40 mins (I'd have to check).

 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2022 - 9:01 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

The Intrada disc runs almost 45 minutes. I would gladly double-dip for another half hour of score! (Sorry I missed that 75 minute remark, above.)

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2022 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

Triumph Of The Spirit was my first Eidelman CD. I bought it at a heavily discounted price because it wouldn't sell at full price in the early 1990s. I liked that music so much that I've ordered Magdalene through my local CD store I used to buy my stuff in those days. That film is also known under the title "Silent Night".

I have to say, Magdalene never really grabed me the way Triumph did. It's certainly a very impressive score by a young and highly talented composer. He was so promising to continue the large symphonic tradition in film music.

Then came Christopher Columbus. Fine score, but not something that I felt was particularly interesting for me.

Well, then Eidelman did all those comedy/romantic soft stuff I didn't care for. That's when I've lost my interest in his work and never went back.

Some time ago, I've relistened to Triumph Of The Spirit. The performance of the Italian orchestra is really lacking here. One wished the score could be recorded by better orchestra. But that won't happen. We're stuck with this one. - The film is on the web in great quality if you know where to look for such material. Magdalene, on the other hand, I've not even seen a snippet of it so far.

 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2022 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Do you notice much good unreleased music in the film for Triumph of the Spirit?

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2022 - 10:10 AM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

Do you notice much good unreleased music in the film for Triumph of the Spirit?

Yavar




I haven't seen it yet, and I can't say when I find the time to watch it.
It's a two hour film, and nearly 54 minutes of music are on the Varèse CD.

 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2022 - 10:16 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

It's a pretty good movie too... I haven't watched it in probably 20 years, though.

Predictable, there is zillion of them just like this one, but you can't go wrong with Will-em Da-foe.

 
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