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 Posted:   Feb 4, 2008 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

I enjoy Rosenman's Lord of the Rings and his East of Eden/Rebel Without a Cause personally. I don't own Robocop 2 but I remember I liked the theme he came up. Very martial and assertive.

Any notable scores anyone would recommend? I like his use of atypical harmonies in his music. Makes for interesting listening.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2008 - 11:27 AM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

Hello David. For me, he's a 'hit and miss' composer a lot of the times. However, the film of 'CROSS CREEK' from the 1980's was superior, and I enjoyed Rosenman's score a great deal. I think he got an Oscar nomination for it if I recall, but no cd release!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2008 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

I don't own Robocop 2 but I remember I liked the theme he came up. Very martial and assertive.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH-K5yxPT7Y

I LOVE it, chorus included. Infact, chorus aside, it is highly evocative of what Goldsmith and Poledouris were doing on all the big action movies at that time (ROBOCOP, TOTAL RECALL, RAMBO). Rosenman was suprisingly adept (or unsuprisngly given the genre's modernist roots) at that 80s action scoring sound, i.e. orchestra, DX7 and an army of clanging fire extinguishers.

I am getting more into earlier Rosenman, the 50s modernist stuff. I want to be very up on that. Much more my thing than the later stuff like BARRY LYNDON, but that's just taste on my part. Something like REBEL blows me away every time, and it's embarrasing how awful todays scores for similar theme movies sound by comparison.

 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2008 - 11:53 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

I agree Ahem although we must recognize two things:

1. Times have changed a lot since the '50s

2. The compositional chops that some of the Hollywood heavyweights sport is miniscule compared to Rosenman, North, Goldsmith and their ilk partly because the newer guys were not weened on Schoenberg, Webern, Berg, Varese, Xenakis, Ligeti, etc.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2008 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

ME! ME! ME!

 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2008 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I'm a big fan!
Prophecy - The Car - Combat!

Quality stuff.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2008 - 12:07 PM   
 By:   TheFamousEccles   (Member)

Leonard Rosenman is the reason I became interested in film music. His compositions are never uninteresting, and he has a way of using harmonic ideas and certain short intervalic notions to create a psychological counterpoint to the action.

I love all of his scores, but of the ones that are available, you should definitely try and seek out his final score "Jurij," which has a fantastic adaptation of Vitale's "Chaconne" at the end - the moment when the violin solo moves away from the Vitale and into Rosenman is really fantastic. Also his "Charlton Heston Presents 'The Bible'" score is a nice hybrid of his twelve-tone writing, his more melodic writing, and his classical adaptations a la "Barry Lyndon." There's a great LP of his score "9/30/55" where he adapts his own "East of Eden" and "Rebel Without A Cause" themes. The album has probably some of his more unconventional cues - including a bit of chase music very much steeped in southern country roots, complete with solo fiddle and electric bass. It's really wild to hear, and a reminder of Rosenman's versatility.

Essentially, anything of his you can find is worth picking up and listening to at least once. It is a shame that we won't get any new scores from this master. Maybe someone will see fit to start recording his concert works.

 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2008 - 12:20 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Rosenman is hit or miss with me. When he hits it (Robocop 2), he knocks it out of the park. When he doesn't (Star Trek IV), I don't remember who I was listening to.

 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2008 - 12:29 PM   
 By:   Joe Sikoryak   (Member)

Lenny Rosenman is just great. It's no coincidence that the second FSM CD was Fantastic Voyage---a singlar accomplishment, and Beneath the Planet of the Apes is not far behind.

 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2008 - 12:42 PM   
 By:   Laurent WATTEAU   (Member)

(gone for good)

 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2008 - 12:44 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Lottsa technique, little talent.

 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2008 - 12:52 PM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

His early cue in Beneath Apes when Franciscus spots Nova on horseback - the zoom shot - is just extraordinary. It's full of about 10 different emotions. But the whole score's like that. Genuinely brilliant. I find myself listening to it over Goldsmith's original more and more. That actually surprises me!

Otherwise, East Of Eden might be the finest Americana score I've heard. Thank god there's no wistful harmonica or any other mid-west cliches. It's a true original, very compassionate and moving, yet has an underlying European sensibility that gives it a hard edge when necessary.

It and Rebel WA Cause are Warners. So where are the tapes? A two CD James Dean set of original scores would be quite something!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2008 - 12:52 PM   
 By:   peterproud   (Member)

When I was a kid I remember being appalled that the music from TREK IV had the identical phrase from LORD OF THE RINGS, I even played it for my friends (I did the same with Horner's BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS love theme and Goldsmith's Ilia's Theme - my friends were amazed), but I continued to hear things in Rosenman's music that impressed me. In fact I just watched FANTASTIC VOYAGE the other day for the first time in years and was blown away by some of the sonorities in that score.

He's definitely never been in my top 5 but I have a lot of respect for his talents.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2008 - 12:57 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

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 Posted:   Feb 4, 2008 - 1:08 PM   
 By:   Gold Digger   (Member)

If "The Car" was released I would buy it.

 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2008 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   Natrebo   (Member)


Essentially, anything of his you can find is worth picking up and listening to at least once. It is a shame that we won't get any new scores from this master. Maybe someone will see fit to start recording his concert works.


LOVE his Cobweb score released by FSM!

I wonder if he ever finished that Symphonic work about Dinosaurs that was mentioned in Jeff Bond's wonderful Star Trek music book?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2008 - 1:21 PM   
 By:   Bob Oblong   (Member)

Leonard Rosenman has always been one of my all-time favorites.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2008 - 1:29 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Not a fan although I understand his legacy as it were.

What's with his own little "danger motif" he sticks into every score I've heard from him since the 70's?

"Dun dun dun dun.....Dun dun dun dun"

Robo2 was hilarious.

 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2008 - 1:30 PM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

I enjoy his music very much: Edge of the City, The Cobweb, Fantastic Voyage, Battle For The Planet of the Apes.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 4, 2008 - 1:37 PM   
 By:   TheFamousEccles   (Member)

Natrebo:

Symphony No. 1, also known as the "Dinosaur Symphony," was completed, and is published by PeerMusic. It has yet to be performed - partially because of the difficulty of the music, but mainly due to the sheer orchestral forces required. It is written for an enormous, augmented orchestra, with a lot of percussion.
The fourth movement was scheduled to be performed a few years ago in Rome as part of a tribute concert, but the concert was cancelled at the last minute.

 
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