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 Posted:   Aug 7, 2007 - 9:37 AM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

As we have those really interesting two threads,

http://fsm.rciwebhosting.net/board/posts.cfm?threadID=43899&forumID=1&archive=0

and

http://fsm.rciwebhosting.net/board/posts.cfm?threadID=43516&forumID=1&archive=0

about Franz Waxman's score from A PLACE IN THE SUN, I've did a quick research to find more threads dealing with the topic. So, by chance I've found the information here

http://fsm.rciwebhosting.net/board/posts.cfm?threadID=15129&forumID=1&archive=1

by Preston Neal Jones that should not be overlooked when discussing the SAYONARA sampler (conducted by Elmer Bernstein):

This thread got me to pull off my shelf that German BMG conducted by Elmer Bernstein and organized by Christopher Palmer. Haven't listened to A PLACE IN THE SUN yet, but it purports to include passages in their original form before studio execs insisted on getting Victor Young, among others, to "soften" parts of it.

I did listen to the brief suite from HEMINGWAY'S ADVENTURES OF A YOUNG MAN, a personal favorite, and was startled to hear one track that didn't belong there at all, misidentified: it was actually "The Old Jenny" from SPIRIT OF ST. LOUIS. Was this another instance of mis-labelled manuscripts, I wonder, as when a cue from AFRICA was recorded by Varese/Goldsmith as part of North's 2001 score...?



I don't know why or how that mistake happened. But it's good to know that there's also music from SPIRIT on that CD. Thanks to the (better) working search engine.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 7, 2007 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   Ag^Janus   (Member)

I finally managed to get hold on Hans Erdmann's NOSFERATU. As always the background informations in the booklet are very helpful. However, I was not impressed by the music, I found it often very boring. The actual score has been lost a long time ago. Gillian B. Anderson did the reconstruction of the score based on three sources:

1) Erdmann's suite where he adapted parts of the actual score ("Fantastisch-Romantische Suite").
2) The handbook by Hans Erdmann and Guiseppe Becce (Allgemeines Handbuch der Filmmusik). - BTW, it would be interesting to have some rerecordings of Becce's film music.
3) Reivews of the 1922 premiere in the German press.

So, I got the feeling, Anderson's job was really very difficult. It's my least favorite edition of the series so far, not knowing yet the Waxman, Chaplin, Koechlin and Dessau albums.


I'm not sure what you were expecting, however you will want to watch the film with this music, it is very tightly bound to the motion picture. Certainly not as separable as Waxman's Place In The Sun.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 7, 2009 - 9:03 PM   
 By:   Doc Loch   (Member)

I ran across this thread while doing research on the BMG/RCA series. Thought folks might be interested in this link to a site for the composer of Metropolis:

http://fimumu.com/huppertz/

Fascinating to discover that there were 10 and 12 inch 78 recordings of selections from the Metropolis score. Wonder if any of these still exist outside of archives or museums.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2020 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   JackRance   (Member)

I thought someone might be interested in this ad. It's on the back of the 1995/96 BMG Classics catalog. Found it while cleaning my attic.



-JM

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2020 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I've heard at the time of the series release in the 90s that some of them have been issued as a box set. But I've never seen it. Has anyone seen it?


The ad immediately above shows a box set that claims to contain 6 CDs. But it doesn't say which 6 they are. Perhaps the first 6 issued. But since it has a catalog number that is higher than any of the others shown, it could contain any of them. Maybe even the mysterious unissued(?) METROPOLIS, which is also pictured.

On the other hand, the box set may never have been issued. A Google search on its catalog number "09026-68316-2" turns up absolutely nothing.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2020 - 11:39 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I have a digital version of the METROPOLIS one -- the best of the bunch, really, and a shame it isn't more widely available.

On CD -- as I mentioned earlier in the thread -- I have the MARK TWAIN/PRINCE & PAUPER, SAYONARA and used to own HIGH NOON.

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2020 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

My favorite in the series is the Noir album.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2020 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I have a digital version of the METROPOLIS one -- the best of the bunch, really, and a shame it isn't more widely available.


I presume that's the recording with the Berlin Radio Symphony Orchestra, conducted by Frank Strobel? Could that 2011 Capricicio release be the same recording that was planned by RCA 15 years earlier?

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2020 - 1:25 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

My favorite in the series is the Noir album.


Yes, I like the Morgan/Stromberg Film Noir disc very much.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2020 - 1:38 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I presume that's the recording with the Berlin Radio Symphony Orchestra, conducted by Frank Strobel? Could that 2011 Capricicio release be the same recording that was planned by RCA 15 years earlier?

Yes, that's the one, and yes -- it could very well be the same.

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2020 - 2:18 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

I presume that's the recording with the Berlin Radio Symphony Orchestra, conducted by Frank Strobel? Could that 2011 Capricicio release be the same recording that was planned by RCA 15 years earlier?




The Strobel/Capriccio single disc of highlights (2011) was recorded in 2010.
The full 2010 recording was released on two CDs (145 minutes) by Pan Classics in 2018.


Pan Classics complete version:

https://www.discogs.com/Fritz-Lang-4-Gottfried-Huppertz-Rundfunk-Sinfonieorchester-Berlin-Frank-Strobel-Metropolis-The-Compl/release/13698359

Click on the cover image and all the credits and other info can be seen.

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2020 - 6:19 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

"Metropolis / Gottfried Huppertz. On BMG/RCA "Red Seal" Label, CD. Performed by: Berndt Heller & Brandenburg Philharmonie Orchester. May 1st 1996. This title was to be part of the "100 years of film music" series but was never released (despite being recorded live and having a cover artwork published) due to copyright problems."

http://fimumu.com/huppertz/

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2020 - 1:14 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

On Google I found an FSM thread from years ago which I can't find here today re: Waxman's "Night Moods." No one apparently had an answer to the query of which films the four disparate sections were derived from. Just to add to the mystery, on the Waxman Website page for works available for performance, "Nightmoods" (one word) lists not four but five pieces, though the total timing corresponds with the timing on the BMG. Maybe "Longing" exists like Hogwarts in another dimension:


For Orchestra 14:30
1. Blind Pursuit – Allegro Ritmico
2. Whispering Shadows – Andante
3. Longing – Lento
4. Delirium – Intense
5. Panic – Allegro Furioso

 
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