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 Posted:   Apr 3, 2005 - 10:55 PM   
 By:   Filmscorecollecter   (Member)

I was just recently listening to the Label X CD of Ron Goodwin's famous film score suites. I like the "Force 10 From Navarone" suite very much but "The Miss Marple Film's" suite is also a great listen, particulary the first minute with that great waltz/violin music. Good thing I have the CD. It's great!

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2005 - 5:50 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

It's a great theme for getting out of a bad mood.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2005 - 11:38 AM   
 By:   Moonie   (Member)

Im glad you were able to get it, it might be gone soon. As soon as I saw it I ordered it, and your correct the other stuff is real good too, great listen all around.
CD is well worth the 20 buck price tag.
cheers
sd

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2005 - 6:19 PM   
 By:   Filmscorecollecter   (Member)

Glad I got it, too!

 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2009 - 8:56 AM   
 By:   GreatGonzo   (Member)

Any chances of these scores getting releases or re-recordings? Just watched all four movies again, there's so much fun music there, it would be a shame if this is another case of "all is lost forever.."

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2009 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   Ellington   (Member)

If you're talking about the Margaret Rutherford Miss Marples, there was a CD of the music from them a few years back - has it been deleted? I recall seeing it in HMV.

Edit - now I realise it is the same CD you are talking about. I've added it to my wish list.

Sadly, looking at the reviews on Amazon, it looks as though the original recordings were destroyed?

 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2009 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

If you're talking about the Margaret Rutherford Miss Marples, there was a CD of the music from them a few years back - has it been deleted? I recall seeing it in HMV.

Edit - now I realise it is the same CD you are talking about. I've added it to my wish list.

Sadly, looking at the reviews on Amazon, it looks as though the original recordings were destroyed?



There is actually the text in the booklet about the re-recording process. It seems that not only the tapes are gone but the written music as well and Goodwin had to listen to some of the episodes and re-write the music to be recorded for this album. Such a shame!

But this album is just fantastic. I am surprised nobody mentioned Lancelot and Guinevere suite yet, which could be my favorite score by Goodwin. Altough I haven't heard a score of his, I wouldn't love. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2009 - 1:07 PM   
 By:   Charlie Chan   (Member)

Hello folks

Ron Goodwin did record the Marples theme on a compilation LP called Adventure. A great recording but not as much music as the CD.

Shame no one had the foresight to keep the original recordings

I was luck enough to get an autographed copy of the CD at a concert in the mid 90's

Apparently in Scandinavia the theme is played everyday on the radio

Happy soundtrack hunting!

Charlie C

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2009 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   G A Flaxman   (Member)

Yes, Lancelot and Guinivere is great too; but my personal guilty pleasure is The Trials of Oscar Wilde (US: The Green Carnation). This has never been released on CD or LP in any form, as far as I am aware. A great shame.

 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2009 - 3:12 PM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

I was just recently listening to the Label X CD of Ron Goodwin's famous film score suites. I like the "Force 10 From Navarone" suite very much but "The Miss Marple Film's" suite is also a great listen, particulary the first minute with that great waltz/violin music. Good thing I have the CD. It's great!

An excellent album which I've owned for a number of years. The sound quality is exceptionally good too and I often use the opening Miss Marple theme to either check or demonstrate my hi-fi.

 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2009 - 3:24 PM   
 By:   shicorp   (Member)

It's sad that the original scores are missing from Ron Goodwin's collection. The Marple/Rutherford movies are quite popular in Germany and can be seen on TV each Christmas season. Also, there have been numerous rip-offs during the last few years (some of them even had Goodwin-like scores - or what should have sounded like Goodwin)...

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2009 - 4:32 PM   
 By:   blue15   (Member)

Another Goodwin score in a similar vein to MISS MARPLE is DECLINE AND FALL...OF A BIRDWATCHER, which had a 20th Fox lp release in England. The US 1-sheet advertised a soundtrack release here but it wasn't to be. The main title also appeared on a Goodwin 2-CD collection from England a few years ago, and it's all a very pleasant listen. Maybe someone like Intrada will get it out as a 1000-1200 release.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2019 - 8:04 PM   
 By:   GreatGonzo   (Member)

Just watched MURDER AT THE GALLOP again - so much fun, joyously over the top, relentless mickey-mousing, they don't write 'em like that anymore. Comparing this one to the re-recorded suite, there's still a fair amount of music unavailable, possibly more so for all four. Kickstarter?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2019 - 2:17 PM   
 By:   roadshowfan   (Member)

This has always been a favourite theme of mine and is so typical of Ron Goodwin's jaunty, aimiable style.

The 45rpm single was issued in the UK in 1961 (as Murder She Says) and the theme later appeared on Ron's "Adventure" LP in 1966 (as Miss Marple's Theme), but prior to that was released in the US on the MGM "Twilight of Honor" soundtrack LP (as Murder At The Gallop) in 1963.

As the timings are exactly the same for each version, I've always wondered if these are all actually the same recording (debuting in stereo for the album versions), or whether it was newly recorded for stereo?

 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2019 - 7:51 AM   
 By:   Stefan Huber   (Member)

This has always been a favourite theme of mine and is so typical of Ron Goodwin's jaunty, aimiable style.

The 45rpm single was issued in the UK in 1961 (as Murder She Says) and the theme later appeared on Ron's "Adventure" LP in 1966 (as Miss Marple's Theme), but prior to that was released in the US on the MGM "Twilight of Honor" soundtrack LP (as Murder At The Gallop) in 1963.

As the timings are exactly the same for each version, I've always wondered if these are all actually the same recording (debuting in stereo for the album versions), or whether it was newly recorded for stereo?


I think it's the same recording, but a very different mix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpKEDinZn0g

One of the most tragic losses in the history of film music. All four scores would deserve full releases. With Warner's current release policy, however, M&E tracks on any DVD or Blu-Ray release are too much to ask for.

 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2019 - 8:15 AM   
 By:   GreatGonzo   (Member)

Here's what BillCarson said in the other thread in January last year:


The estate do stil have all Ron's partitures. So his full ouevre is there for Tadlow or similar.
And they had many of ron's mastertapes but all needed the expensive special process to rescue digitally.

 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2019 - 8:16 AM   
 By:   GreatGonzo   (Member)

Here's what BillCarson said in the other thread in January last year:


The estate do stil have all Ron's partitures. So his full ouevre is there for Tadlow or similar.
And they had many of ron's mastertapes but all needed the expensive special process to rescue digitally.


Would love if somebody could put some ballpark cost estimates to either option.

 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2019 - 10:17 AM   
 By:   Stefan Huber   (Member)

Here's what BillCarson said in the other thread in January last year:


The estate do stil have all Ron's partitures. So his full ouevre is there for Tadlow or similar.
And they had many of ron's mastertapes but all needed the expensive special process to rescue digitally.


I think this is not true for the Miss Marple scores. The liner notes for the LXE CD say that Ron Goodwin had to re-create the suite by watching the movies on video since the written scores are no longer available. My last information is that the estate doesn't own any tape stock on those movies either. The only options are thus the m&e tracks or a full recreation of the score.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2019 - 11:05 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

This would make indeed a great recording for Tadlow.
The Marple theme is one of the greatest and most memorable classic in movie music history and also "the rest " which never has been released other than that suite is great compositing.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2019 - 11:06 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

But I think they are lost...

 
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