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Jul 24, 2004 - 1:27 PM
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Doug Adams
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Cobb is an absolutely stunning score that is far too often ignored. Goldenthal himself called it, "One of my lost children."
It's a wonderful and eclectic mix of classical pastiche (love the Mendelssohn nod), folk music (that's Elliot on vocals in the opening track, btw), Americana and blatant modernism. Which is, of course, everything we love Goldenthal for.
Once upon a time we tried to get editor Paul Seydor, orchestrator Bob Elhai and Elliot on board for an analysis for FSM, but schedules never quite came together. Too bad... There are still pieces of interviews strewn about that need to see the light of day. Maybe someday.
In the mean time, congrats on your find. No one should ever pass up this little gem.
-Doug Adams
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Indeed a great score. I had to pay much more for it, it was an eBay battle... 
It's again another aspect of Goldenthal's writing, with the influences mentioned above. It's more classy than Alien³, although the scores have much in common - one piece from Alien³ has been integrated in both film and CD without problem. Goldenthal's vocals are greatly unexpected, and they represent his often surprising sense for original ideas. In combination with his composition genius, this makes him one of today's greatest composers, in fact my favourite composer.
The "Cobb" album is pure joy, and the music also works perfectly with the film (e.g. The Car Chase with Reno Ho')
I'd like to see some "inside" information on the score, especially the interview bits mentioned. Perhaps this will be out some day.
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I would be very thankful for this. As well as most of the FSM readers, I guess. By the way, since "Frida" time in 2003, no interviews with Mr. Goldenthal have occurred online.
Goldenthal's music can be analysed in detail very well, because the music has a lot of somewhat "hidden" details to be revealed, e.g. in orchestration or rhythm.
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To Doug Adams: Whatever you can do would certainly be appreciated.Thanks Doug.
I'll second that!
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I love the stylistic breadth that Goldenthal achieved in this score. Probably my favorite work of his actually. I love the hyper-active "Reno Ho" and the Mahleresque agagietto in "Homecoming". I mean, how many 6 minute pieces have you heard in the past ten years for film that have this kind of organization and development? Not too many!
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As to "lost children"... I suppose "Batman and Robin" is even more lost. Doug, do you perhaps know if there will be a release of this great music some day?
I feel a well-edited release of this great score would make a popular, profitable and in the end highly collectible limited edition album.
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Jul 29, 2004 - 8:15 AM
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TownerFan
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I had the immense pleasure to interview Elliot two weeks ago (for the Italian Film Music magazine COLONNE SONORE, which of I'm one of the editors  ), since he was in Ischia (Naples, Italy) to attend a film festival and be part of a discussion panel on film music. (John Debney was there too and I had the pleasure to chat with him also. He's a very very nice and easy guy).
BTW, Elliot is a very warm, approachable guy, very "New York-styled", but very down-to-earth and humble too. He was extremely detailed in his answers and gave us some clever and insightful thoughts on film music, movies and concert music.
Oh, I had the pleasure to meet his gorgeous partner Julie Taymor. A very nice, intelligent and beautiful woman.
I think Goldenthal is one of the most talented, interesting and original composer of the latter generation working now in film music, alongside Tom Newman, Howard Shore and Danny Elfman.
Maurizio
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You have all wet my appetite for this score. I consider myself a huge Goldenthal fan, but somehow this score had slipped through all this years.
Luckily it's very cheap (an e-bay battle you say Heinrich? It's just 2 bucks in Amazon) and I'll sure give it a try!!
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Took me a while to actually "discover" Goldenthal, but then Titus floored me and I haven't looked back since. Also enjoy Final Fantasy. I just love his huge horn sections! (...Hmm, that didn't come out the way I intended...)
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Jul 29, 2004 - 6:19 PM
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Doug Adams
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Hi everyone,
I’ll see what I do about getting a Cobb analysis moving again at some point, though I’ve got my fingers wrapped around so many projects right now, it could still be a little bit of a wait. But I promise to do my best.
As for Batman and Robin… an album was assembled, but when the film met with such unilateral frustration, the score CD was scrapped. Will it ever see the light of day? Sadly, I’d guess no time soon. Warners seems to be trying everything possible to distance itself from this version of the character, especially with the new Batman film on the horizon, so I can’t imagine them putting much push behind it. Maybe some enterprising label will try to snap it up should a Goldenthal renaissance occur at some point in the future, but I wouldn’t pin my dreams on it.
-Doug
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I had the immense pleasure to interview Elliot two weeks ago (for the Italian Film Music magazine COLONNE SONORE, which of I'm one of the editors ), since he was in Ischia (Naples, Italy) to attend a film festival and be part of a discussion panel on film music. (John Debney was there too and I had the pleasure to chat with him also. He's a very very nice and easy guy).
BTW, Elliot is a very warm, approachable guy, very "New York-styled", but very down-to-earth and humble too. He was extremely detailed in his answers and gave us some clever and insightful thoughts on film music, movies and concert music.
Oh, I had the pleasure to meet his gorgeous partner Julie Taymor. A very nice, intelligent and beautiful woman.
I think Goldenthal is one of the most talented, interesting and original composer of the latter generation working now in film music, alongside Tom Newman, Howard Shore and Danny Elfman.
Maurizio
That sounds great! I'd love to meet Elliot Goldenthal and Julie Taymor one day. They are such fine artists. Would you mind posting a transcript of your interview, maybe?
Doug, thank you for your statement. You're right, with the new Batman film coming up, a release doesn't seem so probable.
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