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 Posted:   Apr 15, 2025 - 4:51 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)


I am putting this on the music side because we FSM members are interested in legitimate posters not the miscreants who sometimes pollute our board. It is hard for me to decide who
is an authentic new member versus an illegitimate jerk who just wants to play games and insult members. I would hate to alienate a valid new poster, but I also despise being made a fool.

What are some traits that we can use to identify miscreants just looking to play games?

Here are some traits that I think might identify miscreants.

--Ask us to identify very obscure scores.
--Profile does not list legitimate composers; however, Zalmanoz did list good film score composers so that won’t always work.
--The jerks often post the very day they sign up.
--They react violently with obscene language when we question their validity.

I’m wondering if our moderator can trace their IP addresses? It would be nice to see if a computer really is from Iran. Maybe that can’t be done.

Any other traits or suggestions?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2025 - 5:19 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

I do wonder what the point of their actions even are.

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2025 - 5:32 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

I'm sorry you got taunted, joan. It is a public board, caveat emptor and all that.

Though the truly dismaying thing is how many of the local miscreants do proclaim some taste in good movies and good movie music.

There's no accounting for taste. Some of history's most barbaric brutes have displayed some. So much for "Music has charms to soothe a savage breast."

Some are impervious. However, you'd do well to recognize that any public internet forum is fair game for the Modern Online Professional Dissembler and Provocateur, if you take my meaning.

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2025 - 5:33 PM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)


--The jerks often post the very day they sign up.


Sorry you had a bad experience, Joan. You're a voice of reason around here.

This is the most important tell. Sometimes most obnoxious profiles are brand new ones. If you are suspicious you can see which threads they've contributed to before.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2025 - 6:22 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

EdG and Born, thank you and I'm fine. I just want to know when to welcome authentic new posters and when to destroy the inconsiderate assess who are just playing with our members. I agree we can look up previous posts if they don't post on the first day they arrive. Good idea.

I am positive most of these horrid jerks are ex-members who have been banished. They just come in with a new email and profile and then proceed to taunt us.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2025 - 6:41 PM   
 By:   kam   (Member)

This is a trolling tactic called "sealioning", by the way.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2025 - 7:03 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I do wonder what the point of their actions even are.

Indeed! I just went to the thread (hadn't read it before), and yikes! Seems like a lot of work for… what? "Hey, everybody! I just mildly irritated six film music fans! Isn't that awesome?!"

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2025 - 7:44 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Wow Kam, you are correct about sealioning.

Definition is:

"A sealioner feigns ignorance and politeness while making relentless demands for answers and evidence (while often ignoring or sidestepping any evidence the target has already presented), under the guise of "just trying to have a debate", so that when the target is eventually provoked into an angry response, the sealioner can act as the aggrieved party, and the target presented as closed-minded and unreasonable."

Bingo! We sometimes are targets usually followed by filthy language.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2025 - 7:49 PM   
 By:   Graham   (Member)

Wow Kam, you are correct about sealioning.

Definition is:

"A sealioner feigns ignorance and politeness while making relentless demands for answers and evidence (while often ignoring or sidestepping any evidence the target has already presented), under the guise of "just trying to have a debate", so that when the target is eventually provoked into an angry response, the sealioner can act as the aggrieved party, and the target presented as closed-minded and unreasonable."

Bingo! We sometimes are targets usually followed by filthy language.


Wow indeed.

This could not be more on the nose.

Terrible that we have a need for such definitions.

Graham

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2025 - 8:10 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

I mean, he/she even AFTER revealing the "I got you again" and I'll be back doing it a different way, still tried to lie and play the victim. It would be more than fun to expose this piece of crap. I remember his/her/its last thing when he/she/it was trying to ID music from Turkish movies - I even think I may have been the one to ID it. Maybe I'll try and find that thread.

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2025 - 8:12 PM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

Once again proving my theory that PEOPLE ARE FUCKING NUTS (and sea lions aren't helping matters any).

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2025 - 8:28 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Once again proving my theory that PEOPLE ARE FUCKING NUTS (and sea lions aren't helping matters any).
LOL, so true.

Haineshisway, I hope you find that thread. I have my suspicions about that person.
I was so shocked when IT said, "I got you again," and then used super vile language, and then came back to play the Iranian victim. Idiot!

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2025 - 8:37 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Many internet troublemakers are on stimulants of various kinds plus alcohol.

Trolling is the attempt of the little man to unnerve a bigger, better person.

It's a popular thing right now, in many fields.

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2025 - 8:54 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Once again proving my theory that PEOPLE ARE FUCKING NUTS (and sea lions aren't helping matters any).

Hey I resemble that comment!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2025 - 9:23 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

What's going on around here lately? First, Wink Martindale ups and dies, then some miscreant starts a ruckus on the FSM page, my go-to site for calm and relaxation.

In all seriousness, sorry you had to read those mindless attacks earlier, Joan. You are indeed, as stated previously, a voice of reason around here, and much loved by many of us...

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2025 - 11:04 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

jenkwombat, you are such a sweetie. Thank you.

All the people who have posted on this topic have always been GREAT FSM members, and we have many more intelligent respectful members who shouldn't have to deal with such miscreants.

I am sure these sealioners are past members who have been banished, but they can't let go and want revenge.

When they arrive again, I hope I am smart enough to recognize those abominable losers. Other members have spotted those losers, and I shall read their posts.

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2025 - 11:32 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

My suggestion would be to simply not to worry too much about it. If the trolls start trolling, shame is on them, not on you. Don't get riled up, trolls will be trolls.

You cannot always find them out before (though new posters asking to identify some highly obscure piece of possible film music is a dead giveaway by now).

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2025 - 11:38 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I do wonder what the point of their actions even are.

Indeed! I just went to the thread (hadn't read it before), and yikes! Seems like a lot of work for… what? "Hey, everybody! I just mildly irritated six film music fans! Isn't that awesome?!"



Indeed, I wonder about that too. Could just be your typical Internet loon of course. Or, since it is always the same pattern, but with increasingly more sophisticated wording, I suspect it may be A.I. bot training.

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2025 - 11:43 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

In each and every case, there will always be a response from the griefer-in-question that can be pinpointed as the moment of truth where they give themselves away.
The faux umbrage starts in earnest--like clockwork.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2025 - 11:49 PM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

Last time they posted( I think) they had this to say about me. Feel free to be amused, I am every time I read it.
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Prince Damian's mother's user is a dirty whore. He's a bad person, a bastard. I had great sex with his wife. We also filmed it. Everyone who goes to Damian's house makes love because his wife and mother are filthy whores. I didn't pay for sex with his wife once, he has a grudge against me, but I promise to give him good money and he will be happy with me, long live Damian the bastard.


Just a few queries-

1.Could you explain ' mother's user'
2. I can't be a bastard as my dad (unless dear mother has lied for 57 years) is downstairs watching Roger Moore ( probably fell asleep by now).
3. You can't have had sex with my wife as I don't have one. But thanks for assuming she would be someone who provides great sex.
4. If you filmed it when does it get released. Do I get a complimentary copy.
5. Regarding said dvd - please don't use your mystery tune as the score. Use the meow from your neighbour's cat instead.
6. I only have grudges against worthy real people. You are neither

 
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