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 Posted:   Mar 13, 2025 - 11:59 AM   
 By:   lostinscores   (Member)



I believe that project gave a bad taste in people's mouths cuz of the argument the "Orchestrator" made in the thread shortly after the second attempt failed. Some folks said they wouldn't support the project if it were to be revived a third time after seeing the way he talked to the members


So what did the orchestrator say? I missed that one.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2025 - 12:12 PM   
 By:   Slitherjump   (Member)



I believe that project gave a bad taste in people's mouths cuz of the argument the "Orchestrator" made in the thread shortly after the second attempt failed. Some folks said they wouldn't support the project if it were to be revived a third time after seeing the way he talked to the members


So what did the orchestrator say? I missed that one.


He went on one of the users and accused them of making bad faith posts when they were expressing concern and explaining why the projects may not fully succeed and talked to them in a condescending way. There more to that but I don't want to summarize the whole thing as many different points were brought up in the argument, so I'll link you to the thread https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?pageID=1&forumID=1&threadID=157042&archive=0
It's at July 2nd 2:27 but him and that user were having major disagreements even before this post, it just wasn't as aggressive until that point

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2025 - 12:23 PM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I would back this.

The only Kickstarter than I have experienced as dishonest is the book kickstarter.

The problem isn't crowdfunding, it's bad faith actors.

Intrada have proven themselves to be Kickstarter actors of integrity. If the project gets funded, they keep their promises and deliver. They also remain transparent through the process.

If the project doesn't get funded—but this one will and then some—nodody loses.

The criticism some have placed around Intrada then selling the crowd funded product is bizarre.

Crowd funding is to fund the project that creates the product, not to buy exclusive access to it or rights in further sales of the product. You're helping the producer produce it, because you want one. That's the model.

You're effectively buying it up front to help get it produced.

Now, you could make the argument that you'd prefer to be a shareholder with rights over the final product and shares in its proceeds (and risks) rather than a crowdfunder, but that's not the model that's on offer.

The offer is transparent. We buy in or we don't. Either way, Intrada has proved themselves a good faith actor.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2025 - 12:31 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

You're effectively buying it up front to help get it produced.

Thank you, Stephen, for summarizing this so eloquently. I am consistently perplexed when people don't get this pretty basic premise.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2025 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   Slitherjump   (Member)

You're effectively buying it up front to help get it produced.

Thank you, Stephen, for summarizing this so eloquently. I am consistently perplexed when people don't get this pretty basic premise.


^^^^^^

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2025 - 5:14 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)



Thank you, Stephen, for summarizing this so eloquently. I am consistently perplexed when people don't get this pretty basic premise.


Not exactly the same, but I liken it to public TV/radio fundraisers where you pay an amount and then get a reward based on your pledge (obviously not quite the same given rewards for those tend to be worth a lot less than the pledge amount). You're not paying for a product, you're paying for something you want to see happen to get funding.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2025 - 4:53 AM   
 By:   MThiermann670   (Member)

Is there any news anywhere about when the Kickstarter will start?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2025 - 5:54 AM   
 By:   MichaelM   (Member)

I have supported all kickstarters by Intrada and Leigh Phillips and always will. They have never failed to deliver a finished product of the highest quality. We should consider ourselves blessed that these projects still happen.

The word "greedy" has no place in this discussion unless it refers to us, the fans (myself included) who always want MORE!

Really looking forward to THE CHAIRMAN!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2025 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   lostinscores   (Member)

https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?pageID=1&forumID=1&threadID=157042&archive=0
It's at July 2nd 2:27 but him and that user were having major disagreements even before this post, it just wasn't as aggressive until that point


Thanks very much, ok, yep, that style in arguments by orchestrator certainly did not help, I can see that.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2025 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Is this Kickstarter a William Stromberg project or a Leigh Phillips project ?

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2025 - 1:22 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

An Intrada project. I don’t think Intrada has confirmed whether Stromberg is conducting but it seems very likely, and he did conduct the teaser recorded at the Abbott and Costello RSNO sessions last year. Leigh Phillips is working on this for Intrada too, including preparation of the written scores but not having to reconstruct things by ear as he did recently on Crawlspace and all but one cue of Pursuit, for his own Kickstarter.

Leigh Phillips has not yet announced what his next own next Prague Kickstarter campaign will be, after the premiere recordings of Pursuit/Crawlspace/The People Next Door.

 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2025 - 7:47 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

There is a good chunk of music that Goldsmith wrote for this film which didn't get used in it. Frankly his score was rather hacked up in the picture. In some cases an entire cue that he wrote was left out, but other times cues would just be horribly compromised. For an example of that, I give you a cue which by my best guess is called "The Bottle" (going by https://academycollection.org/web/arena/search#/entity/academy/71302942/the-chairman---music-sketches):

https://soundcloud.com/user-906859019-113845892/the-bottle

This is taken from the Twilight Time Blu-ray's isolated score track. Obviously treated badly in the film mix, with all the FX/foreign dialogue... but it also just fades out completely in the middle section, before weirdly coming back later!

Here's the cue immediately following it, which I'm fairly sure is "The Students" (again, Goldsmith's score is such a mess in the film it's hard to know for sure):
https://soundcloud.com/user-906859019-113845892/the-students

Notice that both cues prominently feature Goldsmith's Main Title theme, something which doesn't appear much on the album in between the Main Title and its reprise in the End Credits... getting more development of that theme is one of the reasons I'm most excited for a complete new RSNO recording.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2025 - 6:15 PM   
 By:   rickO   (Member)

I am most certainly considering contributing! We all remember the very good recording from The City of Prague several years ago, and that served as a very nice showcase for The Chairman in "suite" form. The instrumentation feels very tangible, lively, and begging to be played. To hear the complete score will be a sonic treat.

-Rick O.

 
 Posted:   Mar 17, 2025 - 7:17 PM   
 By:   w-dervish   (Member)

Can’t wait! Instantly backed! Bring it on!

Where? I clicked the link and saw a page to listen to an audio file. It said I had to sign up for drop box. I closed the tab and didn't sign up.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2025 - 3:27 AM   
 By:   Big X   (Member)

This is a great Goldsmith score and as per Yavar's note, I hope Intrada is able to produce the recording to include tracks not featured in the film.

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2025 - 6:28 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

This is a great Goldsmith score and as per Yavar's note, I hope Intrada is able to produce the recording to include tracks not featured in the film.

I’m sure they would not have considered this project if that wasn’t the plan. It doesn’t make sense to only record what’s heard in the film, because so many cues there are awkwardly truncated like the example I gave, and would sound terrible presented that way on album even sans sound effects. We already know they’ve successfully accessed the Herrick Library in the past for Black Patch, but I think they may also be able to get written music from JoAnn Kane.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2025 - 6:33 PM   
 By:   TxIrish   (Member)

Here’s a stretch goal suggestion: Jerry’s original End Credits cue for Rambo: First Blood Part II. I would kick in to attend the recording sessions for this alone.

I SECOND THIS

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2025 - 7:40 PM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

Here’s a stretch goal suggestion: Jerry’s original End Credits cue for Rambo: First Blood Part II. I would kick in to attend the recording sessions for this alone.

I SECOND THIS


Oh wow, great idea!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2025 - 9:29 AM   
 By:   Sartoris   (Member)

Here’s a stretch goal suggestion: Jerry’s original End Credits cue for Rambo: First Blood Part II. I would kick in to attend the recording sessions for this alone.

I SECOND THIS


Oh wow, great idea!


Count me in as well.

 
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