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As often Said by me
I would love a GoldenEye with Film edit cues in the bonus section
And i would have loved for Moonraker and upcoming Bonds as Well as other scores
About:
Some film edits actually enhance/extends the original cue to the better
Run, Shoot and Jump from GoldenEye is one examble as Well as Moonraker free fall
Even invasion of Naboo from Episode I has an extention loop that i like. And the battle of Naboo is edited well
I like this and i Think they should be included where fit and room for more
Why:
Some edits Can be easily recreated and others not so much
Personally i don’t have all the time in the world for always doing edit and therefor it could be a good thing for those sitting with the tapes to include some film edit - since they are putting Music on disc anyway
That would help me much and if i feel like this I’m certain others also feel that way
So That’s why i like to see some included when there is room
A final Word on the score release
Now, comment, and be Nice
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I am interested in how the music was composed and performed, not how it was edited. So if a composer has written a piece of music to accompany a scene in a certain way, that's what I want to have on the album and hear.
If, in the process of editing the movie, the music too has been edited and patched by the music supervisor to fit the scene, rather than being re-written and re-performed by the composer/orchestra, I am for the most part not interested and don't want/need that. I want the original conception and performance of the music as intended by the composer.
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I am interested in how the music was composed and performed, not how it was edited. So if a composer has written a piece of music to accompany a scene in a certain way, that's what I want to have on the album and hear.
^THIS!^
But no one takes that away from you
It is suggested they are in the bonus track
What do you Think about LOTR: CR that are film edits also for the most part. The fanfare at the end of balin’s Tomb are edited Short like in the film
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I am interested in how the music was composed and performed, not how it was edited. So if a composer has written a piece of music to accompany a scene in a certain way, that's what I want to have on the album and hear.
^THIS!^
But no one takes that away from you
It is suggested they are in the bonus track
I never mind anything that's released, so if interesting film edits are released as bonus tracks, by all means, I don’t mind at all.
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The Bond soundtracks are the perfect way to put the film edit of the songs in the film score since the OST has the album version
For GoldenEye that would be the full single version or edited film edit depending on which of the two that goes in the bonus sections
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Jan 10, 2025 - 12:42 AM
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Thor
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My soundtrack listening mantra is easy: I listen to albums, not archives (TM). Same as I've always done with my pop, rock, electronic, classical albums.
I'd like to put the CD in, press play and let it play out until it finishes (same with iTunes). No programming, no intervention, no nothing. So I need it to be curated as a listening experience as much as possible. That means reasonable/representative length, selection of highlight cues, reorganized for better flow and with no filler material. That also means no extra bonus cues with alternates, source music etc. And CERTAINLY no silly "film edit variations".
But to each their own.
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Jan 10, 2025 - 3:16 PM
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richuk
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I am interested in how the music was composed and performed, not how it was edited. So if a composer has written a piece of music to accompany a scene in a certain way, that's what I want to have on the album and hear.
If, in the process of editing the movie, the music too has been edited and patched by the music supervisor to fit the scene, rather than being re-written and re-performed by the composer/orchestra, I am for the most part not interested and don't want/need that. I want the original conception and performance of the music as intended by the composer.
If you're approaching an album purely as music, and especially if you've never seen the film, then I agree with you.
The 'complication' in my view comes not from changes made due to scene re-edits (timings, etc), but where the editors have changed the music in a scene in such a way that makes a very noticeable, prominent difference in the tone of a scene.
A few scenes in Harry Potter 1 are totally changed by a construction of some sort by the editors and director. In two cases, my humble opinion is that Williams read the scene wrong and Columbus realised too late to ask for a rewrite.
LLL's expanded set of course presented the intended score, but are you (and others) really saying that those of us who liked the film and were drawn the music in certain sequences, should just forget about them overnight and only ever listen to Williams' (debatably less effective) composition? Alternatively we do what I do now and again - supplement my set with a few re-created film versions.
Intrada's Sleepy Hollow appears at first glance to be missing a cue (just prior to the courtroom scene). The answer is: it's not missing - it's tracked from two sections of an unused alternate. There's no evidence whatsoever in the film that it's not an original recorded cue. It's only because it's an editorial creation that some would say I shouldn't be listening to it, but of course, I did the tiny edit necessary to make it, and put it where it's heard. Lovely.
Again, I never expect these edits to be presented on an official set, but to dismiss everything editorial as without listening value, I think is a bit naive.
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Jan 10, 2025 - 10:12 PM
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SchiffyM
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Reading over this thread, I have to say I don't really understand why somebody would want film edits.
That said, most people are confused about why I want to listen to film music at all. So I'm not judging.
Any reason for enjoying music is as valid as any other. For me, I want to hear music, not a movie. It's true, film compositions are not necessarily pure expressions of music. Even so, I am interested in the composer's intent, not some director/editor/producer/test-audience's idea of what it should have been.
Granted, the composer doesn't work in a vacuum, and all of those people may have had significant input into what I'm describing as the composer's intent. There is no one absolute solution. But personally, I have no interest in the film's music editing being emulated on album.
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Jan 11, 2025 - 2:13 AM
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richuk
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If you're largely ignoring the film when you listen, then yes I can imagine why you wouldn't want to be hearing edited material.
But if you're closer to how the material works in some films and said films contain sections where things were changed to suit the director's creative thinking, occasionally I feel a desire to hear those sections as music.
Is it just a general consideration of all editing as bad, or 'butchered'?
I'll cite my most recent example - I love the score to JPIII. One of those 'formative years' discoveries for me, and the film takes Davis' end credits cue and moves some things around. That presentation left an impression on me, and in my opinion, the resultant piece flows superbly, and leaves virtually no evidence that it was edited. Hence I supplemented the LLL set with a self-created bonus track, which is the exact film edit of the credits. I love listening to both versions - they are alternate creative takes.
I cannot stress enough here - I don't expect producers to present these edits to us. Expansions should be archival, representative of the composer's work. However, I think there's an unnecessary amount of hostility occasionally towards the practice of fans re-creating certain film edits where the musical impression is particularly strong.
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