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 Posted:   Dec 18, 2024 - 7:48 AM   
 By:   robertmro   (Member)

Update after listening

This is a wonderful listening experience, clearly someone’s passion project. It has to be one of the best film score re-recording done to date bar none, meticulously prepared in every way. I would love to know more about the genesis of the project. Was Olivia Tiomkin Douglas behind it? The only minor complaint that I have is that the male voices chanting the fisherman’s song in the film is absent. Other than that it’s about as perfect as you can get without Tiomkin conducting himself (nobody can conduct Tiomkin like Tiomkin).


So what IS that last track?


The last track on disk 2 is Tiomkin talking about is his involvement in the film and what it meant to him personally. There’s no explanation of who recorded it or why. My guess is that it was part of a studio promotion for the film which he did for many major productions. It’s a fun addition.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2024 - 1:40 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

I can just imagine what he had to say. Again, a composer like him could only salivate at the material he had to work with.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2024 - 3:27 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

The last track on disk 2 is Tiomkin talking about is his involvement in the film and what it meant to him personally. There’s no explanation of who recorded it or why. My guess is that it was part of a studio promotion for the film which he did for many major productions. It’s a fun addition.

Seems to me Tiomkin was kinda the Zimmer of his day. Often in the spotlight by even mainstream media, like that quiz show he was on (where you had to guess the guest). So I'm not surprised he participated in promotion material at the time.

 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2024 - 7:50 AM   
 By:   robertmro   (Member)

The last track on disk 2 is Tiomkin talking about is his involvement in the film and what it meant to him personally. There’s no explanation of who recorded it or why. My guess is that it was part of a studio promotion for the film which he did for many major productions. It’s a fun addition.

Seems to me Tiomkin was kinda the Zimmer of his day. Often in the spotlight by even mainstream media, like that quiz show he was on (where you had to guess the guest). So I'm not surprised he participated in promotion material at the time.


It’s the other way around Zimmer is the Tiomkin of his time in terms of publicity only. Unlike Zimmer Tiomkin wrote his own music, had an extraordinary musical education, composed hit tunes like Henry Mancini and was a household name like John Williams. You could also argue that in some ways he was the John Williams of his day or vise versa.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2024 - 12:49 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Right on, r. And Thor, wonderful baseball references delivered by Spencer T (Hemingway was quite into The Game)! cool

From Bosley Crowther in the NY Times, 10 October 1958 that opens...

"CREDIT Leland Hayward For trying something off the beaten track in making a motion-picture version of Ernest Hemingway's "The Old Man and the Sea," and credit Spencer Tracy for a brave performance in its one big role. Also credit Dimitri Tiomkin for providing a musical score that virtually puts Mr. Tracy in the position of a soloist with a symphony."

...and closes with:

"Mr. Tracy is assisted briefly by a sensitive-looking Cuban lad, Felipe Pazos, who aids a suggestion of the ironic juxtaposition of youth and age. But his major support in emotional coloring comes from that Tiomkin musical score, which is full of dramatic thunder and melodic poignancy. It is the one element of eloquence in this extraordinary one-man show."

 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2024 - 3:14 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Is this album CD Only? Or is there a different release date for streaming?

It's available for streaming and as digital download in 24bit/96kHz from Qobuz:
https://www.qobuz.com/de-de/album/the-old-man-and-the-sea-dimitri-tiomkin/gd0sqo0j81p0b


And for streaming in MP3 Quality from Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/intl-de/album/5nWyI4iJbLcjChkcaim4Aw


Presumably elsewhere too.

 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2024 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   Anabel Boyer   (Member)

For me, this is the album of the year! Especially since it came out of nowhere, and the surprise was total!
A superb performance by the Royal Scottish Orchestra, as interpreting Tiomkin's music -- the king of rubato -- is, as noted, a genuine challenge for any conductor who takes it on!
It's also amusing to hear faint but unmistakable echoes of RIO BRAVO in the first part of the album, a score recorded just a few months earlier.
Congratulations on this sublime album!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2024 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

Is this album CD Only? Or is there a different release date for streaming?

It's available for streaming and as digital download in 24bit/96kHz from Qobuz:
https://www.qobuz.com/de-de/album/the-old-man-and-the-sea-dimitri-tiomkin/gd0sqo0j81p0b


And for streaming in MP3 Quality from Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/intl-de/album/5nWyI4iJbLcjChkcaim4Aw


Presumably elsewhere too.


Thanks for the tip. Found it on Amazon Music Unlimited in ULTRA HD.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2024 - 5:15 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

On Tidal too.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2025 - 4:51 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Late to the party...
I must say,one of the best Tiomkins.Great recording and its not as " frantic" as other Tiomkin scores.Especialky the first quarter,before he sets out to sea is wonderful......

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2025 - 6:01 AM   
 By:   Richard May   (Member)

I enjoyed it too and am sure I’ll return to listen to it on several occasions in the future. Coming out at the same time as Out of Africa and two Bond scores, is tough competition in terms of listening time for me, but it’s amazing when you think how many film scores have been re-recorded now.

I hope it will sell well enough for Intrada. I guess that someone has funded this as a passion project not expecting to break even, but even so. I’d presume that if they recorded this during the same trip as the Abbot and Costello CD, there may have been some shared costs?

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2025 - 7:21 AM   
 By:   doug raynes   (Member)

I enjoyed it too and am sure I’ll return to listen to it on several occasions in the future. Coming out at the same time as Out of Africa and two Bond scores, is tough competition in terms of listening time for me, but it’s amazing when you think how many film scores have been re-recorded now.

I hope it will sell well enough for Intrada. I guess that someone has funded this as a passion project not expecting to break even, but even so. I’d presume that if they recorded this during the same trip as the Abbot and Costello CD, there may have been some shared costs?


As the CD booklet says, the recording dates were September 2023 and February 2024, so nothing to do with the dates of Intrada's "Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein" recording. Different conductor as well!!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2025 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

I guess that someone has funded this as a passion project not expecting to break even, but even so.

The sound recording copyright listed on the album and the streaming versions is Volta Music Corporation. Intrada's blurb also mentions them. Maybe Tiomkin's estate at least partially commissioned this? I don't have the CD, so I haven't seen its (executive) producer credits.

I greatly enjoyed the 'chill' parts of the score on streaming, and I'll probably buy the download off of Qobuz soon. Beautiful engineering and performance as well.

 
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