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 Posted:   Nov 19, 2024 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   Stefan Huber   (Member)

Roger on FB for Intrada:

We will have one last batch of releases in Dec, featuring the likes of Dimitri Tiomkin, Charles Fox, Corey Wallace, John Barry and Frank Ilfman.

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2024 - 1:16 PM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I believe this is the title that was originally teased for 2023, then was teased again for early 2024, but kept getting delayed.

Perseverence pays off!

I'm hearing nightmare stories from insiders about how ridiculously long it's taking to get approvals on certain titles. Literally years, in some cases. Seems to apply here.

I look forward to it, and hope to see it soon, but given those nightmare stories, I'll be understanding if it doesn't make it.

Fingers crossed, Stefan!

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2024 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Wonder what it could be. Hope for something like Year of the Comet (rejected).

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2024 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

Anyone said the Specialist yet?

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2024 - 1:37 PM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Anyone said the Specialist yet?

There's no hope of that one coming out any time soon, I'm afraid. It's buried. Warners.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2024 - 1:47 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

What's wrong with the already released THE SPECIALIST?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2024 - 1:50 PM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

What's wrong with the already released THE SPECIALIST?

Nuttin!

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2024 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

Out of Africa a possibility?


Not sure if they could do a re-issue of Black Hole or not as well?

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2024 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Anyone said the Specialist yet?

There's no hope of that one coming out any time soon, I'm afraid. It's buried. Warners.

Cheers


It's not exactly "buried"; it's available for streaming and digital download.

https://www.qobuz.com/be-nl/album/the-specialist-original-motion-picture-score-john-barry/0884977323320

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2024 - 4:12 PM   
 By:   Deadwalker   (Member)

Out of Africa a possibility?


Not sure if they could do a re-issue of Black Hole or not as well?


Re-issue of The Black Hole. Yes Please.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2024 - 4:48 PM   
 By:   Kevin Costigan   (Member)

How awesome would it be if the Legend Of The Lone Ranger masters were found!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2024 - 5:17 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

I can think of no John Barry album I would rather have than the lost but fully recorded score for Sinful Davey from 1969, the same year as OHMSS and Midnight Cowboy.

A period film about a rogue, John Huston asked JB to compose a contemporary score.

Then Walter Mirisch tossed it.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2024 - 5:42 PM   
 By:   DS   (Member)

Other possibilities are "Touched by Love," "Boom!," "Murder by Phone," his demo for "Clash of the Titans" which was recently discovered (this would have to be paired with something else), and the rejected "Goodbye Lover," among others...

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2024 - 6:17 PM   
 By:   SBD   (Member)

Other possibilities are "Touched by Love," "Boom!," "Murder by Phone," his demo for "Clash of the Titans" which was recently discovered (this would have to be paired with something else), and the rejected "Goodbye Lover," among others...

Murder by Phone would be something else.

Has anyone found the rest of his (unused) score for The Bunker?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2024 - 6:37 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

Also: There was more of his Cotton Club music than has ever been released. The original album was originally going to be a 2 LP set. Sure, lots of Duke Ellington (and that's just alright with me) but probably more Barry.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2024 - 6:56 PM   
 By:   CarterMusic   (Member)

It would be interesting if the film score for “Petulia” was expanded. But this is doubtful because of the practice of dumping tapes after they were used in those days. However, the original LP program of this soundtrack was released along with “Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland” in 2005 on CD. This is probably irrelevant to this discussion but just something for me to write about.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2024 - 7:54 PM   
 By:   DS   (Member)

I've seen "Petulia" but it's been many years. According to Scott Bettencourt, this is the unreleased music:

"There are a handful of score cues in the film not featured on the LP. The siren theme plays as Petulia spies on Archie and his semi-girlfriend May in the park, and there's another cue as he kicks Petulia out of his place when she shows up while May's there. The Petulia theme plays with the sirens for a scene of Archie at the hospital, and there's an upbeat cue when Archie picks flowers from his apartment greenhouse to take to Petulia, leading to an emotional cue when Archie finds Petulia still with the Danners after her near fatal beating (which features one of the film's most memorable lines, Petulia's "I Would have turned those beautiful hands into fists") and runs away up the hill."

https://filmscoremonthly.com/daily/article.cfm?articleID=4458

As Bettencourt notes, this was also another case where there is quite a bit of music on the album that isn't in the movie.

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2024 - 9:15 PM   
 By:   MutualRevolver   (Member)

Mercury Rising, with Carter Burwell's additional cues as well

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2024 - 9:53 PM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Anyone said the Specialist yet?

There's no hope of that one coming out any time soon, I'm afraid. It's buried. Warners.

Cheers


It's not exactly "buried"; it's available for streaming and digital download.

https://www.qobuz.com/be-nl/album/the-specialist-original-motion-picture-score-john-barry/0884977323320


That's The original 1994 CD, Nic. I presume the question was in reference to a possible complete, remastered edition.

A complete and remastered edition is definitely buried for the time being. It nearly came out for the film's 20th anniversary in 2014, but got delayed. Then there was the changing of the guard at Warners, and that buried it completely. Nobody is going to be doing an expanded remaster of that title any time soon, I'm afraid.

That said, the original 1994 CD doesn't sound as bad as the other poorly mastered Epic CDs of the 1990s, and there's not that much music missing. There's maybe 10 minutes of score in the film, plus source music and whatever alternate versions there might be. So, the 1994 album should suffice for people in the interim.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2024 - 2:24 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Ref: PETULIA.

There are indeed about three unreleased cues, each quite short. It would be very nice to get them, because they have some nice touches not represented by other tracks on the album, but we're talking literally two or three minutes of music.

PETULIA is one of those instances where there's more music on the album than there is in the film, thanks to the inclusion of the unused cue Highway 101.

However, again, as a Warners property, even if the original scoring masters existed—and I doubt it, because hardly any John Barry scoring masters from that era still exist—I am confident that Warners would not answer the door on that one.

Three John Barry scores I'd particularly love to see reduxed are:

THE COTTON CLUB.

Only two tracks of John Barry's score have been released, and it's one of his most remarkable achievements. Plus, there is the famous / infamous matter of the score being completely re-done with a different size orchestra, so there's an alternative recording for a different orchestra set-up out there somewhere.

FRANCES.

Like PETULIA, there's literally only a few minutes of unreleased score, but one of those pieces is simply the most magical piece of John Barry and I ache to have it. The cue I'm thinking of was heavily used in the trailer.

NIGHT GAMES.

Silva Screen could have done the complete one-hour score back in 1992, but they chose instead to take only 24 minutes of it to make it a CD filler for GAME OF DEATH. NIGHT GAMES is a dreadful film, but it's one of John Barry's most interesting scores from that period. It's deliciously romantic, mysterious, sensual, and dark, with some serious dramatic bite in some of the unreleased cues.

I don't think we'll ever get The Cotton Club, due to licencing complications. Frances could surely be done if anyone was motivated to do it. Same with Night Games. I was hoping Silva Screen might redux that title.

Of the completely unreleased scores, I'd especially like to see TOUCHED BY LOVE and MY SISTER'S KEEPER come out. Silva Screen nearly did MY SISTER'S KEEPER back in 1986/1987. They had the tapes to do it, but it fell through.

None of these titles is what I'm expecting to see from Intrada in December.

Cheers

 
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