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 Posted:   Jul 22, 2024 - 7:41 AM   
 By:   NO NAME   (Member)

Is it possible that some of this music was used for another spaghetti western ? I think that i remember another film but i am not sure.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2024 - 8:20 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

Is it possible that some of this music was used for another spaghetti western ?
I think that i remember another film but i am not sure.



It is possible. I couldnt say for which. It happens a lot, usually on the lower budget ones. Some of his L'Oro dei Bravados was used quite prominently in Viva Gringo.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2024 - 8:30 AM   
 By:   NO NAME   (Member)

Is it possible that some of this music was used for another spaghetti western ?
I think that i remember another film but i am not sure.



It is possible. I couldnt say for which. It happens a lot, usually on the lower budget ones. Some of his L'Oro dei Bravados was used quite prominently in Viva Gringo.
Some of this music is too good to be in this movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2024 - 8:45 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)


It is possible. I couldnt say for which. It happens a lot, usually on the lower budget ones. Some of his L'Oro dei Bravados was used quite prominently in Viva Gringo.
Some of this music is too good to be in this movie.

You mean in Sugar Colt?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2024 - 9:24 AM   
 By:   NO NAME   (Member)


It is possible. I couldnt say for which. It happens a lot, usually on the lower budget ones. Some of his L'Oro dei Bravados was used quite prominently in Viva Gringo.
Some of this music is too good to be in this movie.


You mean in Sugar Colt? yes. But i did not see it

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2024 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)


It is possible. I couldnt say for which. It happens a lot, usually on the lower budget ones. Some of his L'Oro dei Bravados was used quite prominently in Viva Gringo.
Some of this music is too good to be in this movie.


You mean in Sugar Colt?
yes. But i did not see it

Then how do you know the music is too good. The film is not bad.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2024 - 10:27 AM   
 By:   NO NAME   (Member)


It is possible. I couldnt say for which. It happens a lot, usually on the lower budget ones. Some of his L'Oro dei Bravados was used quite prominently in Viva Gringo.
Some of this music is too good to be in this movie.


You mean in Sugar Colt?
yes. But i did not see it


Then how do you know the music is too good. The film is not bad. Just by the title

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2024 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)



Then how do you know the music is too good. The film is not bad.
Just by the title


A bit of a limp reason,isn't it.
'Coz the film is crap' would be better

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2024 - 12:29 PM   
 By:   mikael488   (Member)

Some music from Sugar Colt and Quien Sabe was reused in La morte sull'alta colline (aka Death on high mountain, 1968). Lo chiamavano King (aka His name was King, 1971) also reuses a track or two from Sugar colt as well as music from other Bacalov western scores, incl. Django. Those two are the ones I can think of at the moment but there are probably more. A number of spaghetti westerns scored by Bacalov actually borrow music from earlier westerns of his, especially those from the late '60s and early '70s.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2024 - 1:56 PM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)


It is possible. I couldnt say for which. It happens a lot, usually on the lower budget ones. Some of his L'Oro dei Bravados was used quite prominently in Viva Gringo.


Which movie do you mean? VIVA GRINGO was a 1965 German/Italian co-producton - adapted from a novel by Karl May - which was scored by Lavagnino. No Bacalov music in that western/adventure movie at all:
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viva_Gringo

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2024 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)


It is possible. I couldnt say for which. It happens a lot, usually on the lower budget ones. Some of his L'Oro dei Bravados was used quite prominently in Viva Gringo.


Which movie do you mean? VIVA GRINGO was a 1965 German/Italian co-producton - adapted from a novel by Karl May - which was scored by Lavagnino. No Bacalov music in that western/adventure movie at all:
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viva_Gringo


Some Bacalov was used I some of the scenes filmed at Macchu Picchu where the locals were marching up the hills/ slopes. And yes Lavagnino is the composer but not in those couple of scenes. And I have the German dvd. So on this occasion I disagree.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2024 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   slint   (Member)


It is possible. I couldnt say for which. It happens a lot, usually on the lower budget ones. Some of his L'Oro dei Bravados was used quite prominently in Viva Gringo.


Which movie do you mean? VIVA GRINGO was a 1965 German/Italian co-producton - adapted from a novel by Karl May - which was scored by Lavagnino. No Bacalov music in that western/adventure movie at all:
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viva_Gringo


Some Bacalov was used I some of the scenes filmed at Macchu Picchu where the locals were marching up the hills/ slopes. And yes Lavagnino is the composer but not in those couple of scenes. And I have the German dvd. So on this occasion I disagree.


I am somewhat confused. I do not hear anything from Bacalov in that film, and L'Oro dei Bravados was composed 5 years later!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2024 - 2:54 PM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)


Which movie do you mean? VIVA GRINGO was a 1965 German/Italian co-producton - adapted from a novel by Karl May - which was scored by Lavagnino. No Bacalov music in that western/adventure movie at all:
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viva_Gringo

Some Bacalov was used I some of the scenes filmed at Macchu Picchu where the locals were marching up the hills/ slopes. And yes Lavagnino is the composer but not in those couple of scenes. And I have the German dvd. So on this occasion I disagree.


Sorry, but I can´t really understand you. L´ORO DEI BRAVADOS was a western frtom 1970. So it is impossible that the music by Bacalov composed for that movie should have been used for VIVA GRINGO in 1965. This is paradoxical.
I haven´t seen the German version of VIVA GRINGO - DAS VERMÄCHTNIS DES INKA - for a long time (certainly more than 20 years), but I have just checked the English version. And there is quite simply Lavagnino music in that scene you probably mean where the locales are marching up the hills/slopes of Macchu Picchu.
Have a look for yourself here at 1:25:08:
https://ok.ru/video/2686808885926

It would also contradict the fact that director Georg Marischka got the tape with the complete Lavagnino score from the Italian PEA production company in 1965 and this was the only music source he had. From the tape he had received he then adapted the music to his movie. L´ORO DEI BRAVADOS on the other hand wasn´t produced by PEA and was made much later.
Or could it be that some music by Lavagnino has been replaced for the German DVD release? However, this would also be very unusual.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2024 - 3:09 PM   
 By:   slint   (Member)


Or could it be that some music by Lavagnino has been replaced for the German DVD release?


No, it is the same music.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2024 - 3:32 PM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

As I haven't seen the film in a while I will then say this- I may have the wrong title but I remember the 'different ' music standing out. This was made more so by the fact that I love the Lavagnino music. I'll check when I can.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2024 - 3:39 PM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

As I haven't seen the film in a while I will then say this- I may have the wrong title but I remember the 'different ' music standing out. This was made more so by the fact that I live the Lavagnino music. I'll check when I can.

Then it must either be a western from around 1970 when L´ORO DEI BRAVADOS was also made or it concerns a later (German or English?) dubbing from the 70s or 80s of a 60s western which originally had Lavagnino music, but was partly replaced with the one by Bacalov.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2024 - 6:05 PM   
 By:   NO NAME   (Member)



Then how do you know the music is too good. The film is not bad.
Just by the title



A bit of a limp reason,isn't it.
'Coz the film is crap' would be better

I know, but when i will have the chance, i will look at it.
By the way, is it me but i think the score from Riz Ortolani for DAY OF ANGER is too extreme, too jazzy, too loud ! https://youtu.be/14nZDi7S81Q

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2024 - 1:31 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)



I know, but when i will have the chance, i will look at it.
By the way, is it me but i think the score from Riz Ortolani for DAY OF ANGER is too extreme, too jazzy, too loud ! https://youtu.be/14nZDi7S81Q



It's different, it's Ortolani. You won't use the name Ennio to describe it. I like it. It's not in my top 5 or ten.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2024 - 8:52 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

Anyway I flicked through the film and it would appear I was talking rubbish! I didn't hear any Bacalov. And yet I was convinced some of the scenes of the locals at matching picchu was with some Bacalov. Maybe there is another film with 'similar 'scene and I've mixed them up ( for years).

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2024 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

Anyway I flicked through the film and it would appear I was talking rubbish! I didn't hear any Bacalov. And yet I was convinced some of the scenes of the locals at macchu picchu was with some Bacalov. Maybe there is another film with 'similar 'scene and I've mixed them up ( for years).

 
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