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Apr 25, 2024 - 8:07 AM
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Octoberman
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Well, I think it says more about your own melancholy and nostalgia, Solium, coping with your own "loss of childhood", so to speak, rather than any level-headed assessment of the state-of-affairs. No worries, we've all been there sometimes. The important thing is how you let those sentiments steer you in life. It's important to explore outwards sometimes, beyond Hollywood if necessary, and to meet new things with an open attitude, whether it's a new EXORCIST film or whatever. Not just brush it off because it's new, and everything new sucks and why can't we go back to 1984 again, when everything was rosy and nice.
Sol is not the only one that feels this way, as we can see.
Sometimes you just can't keep trying to polish turds, not matter how valiantly one may want to.
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Apr 25, 2024 - 8:40 AM
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TominAtl
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The film industry just isn't very good anymore. Its lazy, creatively dead and cheap looking. That's a broad statement of course, there are some good stuff out their but far and few between.
Can I ask, how many new movies did you watch in ‘23? I say over 100, both domestic and European releases, studio and independently financed, and I would say that at least 50% of them could be categorised as good, excellent or superb.
And as someone who has a particular interest in films of he 60s and 70s, I have to say that 50/50 ratio would probably apply to cinema from those decades too.
Objectively I do not believe that movies have got worse, per se. I do agree that the quality of tentpole movies has, by an large, declined (in my opinion of course) but to suggest movies as a whole are lazy and uncreative is either hyperbole to illustrate a point (and in fairness you do acknowledge it is a generality) or possibly because you haven’t discovered the ones which are well above average.
I do agree that generally speaking today's movies have not gotten worse in quality. I saw a ton in the 80's and 90's and today as well. There is equal amount of trash, low bar films from those decades and all the way through today, and then there are absolute gems. I think it was William Goldman in his book who wrote that a good movie is actually almost done by accident. Not that anyone is deliberately trying to make a bad film but too many hands are in the pot, with creative input and executive demands, etc. And for the past 20+ years, too much emphasis on easy money, cash grabs with incessant reboots and sequels and prequels. Thats where a lot of the crap comes from.
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Apr 25, 2024 - 11:10 AM
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Solium
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The film industry just isn't very good anymore. Its lazy, creatively dead and cheap looking. That's a broad statement of course, there are some good stuff out their but far and few between.
Can I ask, how many new movies did you watch in ‘23? I say over 100, both domestic and European releases, studio and independently financed, and I would say that at least 50% of them could be categorised as good, excellent or superb.
And as someone who has a particular interest in films of he 60s and 70s, I have to say that 50/50 ratio would probably apply to cinema from those decades too.
Objectively I do not believe that movies have got worse, per se. I do agree that the quality of tentpole movies has, by an large, declined (in my opinion of course) but to suggest movies as a whole are lazy and uncreative is either hyperbole to illustrate a point (and in fairness you do acknowledge it is a generality) or possibly because you haven’t discovered the ones which are well above average.
I do agree that generally speaking today's movies have not gotten worse in quality. I saw a ton in the 80's and 90's and today as well. There is equal amount of trash, low bar films from those decades and all the way through today, and then there are absolute gems. I think it was William Goldman in his book who wrote that a good movie is actually almost done by accident. Not that anyone is deliberately trying to make a bad film but too many hands are in the pot, with creative input and executive demands, etc. And for the past 20+ years, too much emphasis on easy money, cash grabs with incessant reboots and sequels and prequels. Thats where a lot of the crap comes from.
There's always been good movies and bad movies. The 80's and previous decades had plenty of awful movies. I'd say very few movies out of the hundred made each year are any good and that's for any decade. But I feel as far as big ticket movies the money and talent isn't on the screen today like the big ticket movies pre- 2000's. How major blockbusters today be so bad despite the money they put into them is beyond me. But as I said its just not the quality of the product its the creativity and originality of the products. We've also lost the "little" films Hollywood used to produce.
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