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 Posted:   Apr 19, 2024 - 2:21 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

For some mad reason, I took this CD for another spin today.
It's a totally generic riff on the MIB music that has come before it.
I never saw the film, which didn't even feature Will Smith or Tommy Lee Jones.
It just looked like a total cash grab, from the studio, for a series that was already floundering by Episode 2 (although I did really enjoy MI3 with the time travel plot and added emotional beats and my favourite score of the series overall).
There's nothing wrong with this CD.
It's 54 minutes of polished, professional sci-fi/fantasy scoring with some Mission Impossible style beats and bongos running throughout it.
You can tell the sci-fi bike chase takes place in some exotic middle eastern locale, cos the music points this out with its Arabic textures during the track (13/Riding A Bike).
It's impossible to split where any Elfman tracks start and the other two composers (Bacon & Lindgren) end.
I notice the film wasn't a complete flop (I thought it tanked) taking in $250 mill from a 100k budget. Clever accounting probably makes it look like it broke even.
Any fans of the film or its music out there?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2024 - 3:17 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Along with MIB 3, I've played it exactly ONCE since I got it. big grin

I never connected much to these scores. I have a sorta nostalgic relationship to the first, but with the exception of the excellent main theme and the galaxy music, I found it tough listening. Back then and now. MIB 2, however, is far more accessible and enjoyable. That's a great album. But for some reason, I never felt the urge to play MIB 3 and 4 over the years. Something about those busy, contrapuntal affairs that rub me the wrong way. Loads of screaming brass.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2024 - 4:11 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I'm kinda the same on the whole MIB franchise and the scores are certainly way off being any kind of favourites in the Elfman collection.
But I did really connect with 3, both as a film and in its score.
The film was much better than I expected it to be (real comic-book fantasy excellence) with that quirky alien guy, Brolin giving a tremendous turn as a younger TLJ and I liked the sad/tragic call back sequences (meeting a young Will Smith/J and his dad) with their lovely lonely guitar/orch accompaniments.
That's the only one I return to these days (although it has been whittled itself).

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2024 - 5:29 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

I didn't even remember having it, til I just looked! Anyway MIB lost its ( slight ) edge when heard it in some Alfred Schnittke score.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2024 - 5:37 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I didn't even remember having it, til I just looked! Anyway MIB lost its ( slight ) edge when heard it in some Alfred Schnittke score.

???

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2024 - 5:48 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

I didn't even remember having it, til I just looked! Anyway MIB lost its ( slight ) edge when heard it in some Alfred Schnittke score.

???


What. Elfman sounds like Schnitte.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2024 - 6:05 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

I didn't even remember having it, til I just looked! Anyway MIB lost its ( slight ) edge when heard it in some Alfred Schnittke score.

???


Or to quote the goons- only three what's. You're not very bright are you.smile

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2024 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

"...when heard it in some Alfred Schnittke score"
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I'm curious now. Which one?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2024 - 6:31 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I'm curious too. Never heard of a Schnittke-Elfman connection.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2024 - 6:35 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

There's a track or two in one of the strobel cd that smacks of mib to me at.least.

I'll look into it for you guys.

 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2024 - 6:40 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

I’ve never been big on the score to the original MIB for whatever reason. For me, each sequel was an improvement on the last (with the exception of this spin-off, which did ring generic). As far as movies go, the first and third are the only ones worth seeing.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2024 - 6:43 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I’ve never been big on the score to the original MIB for whatever reason. For me, each sequel was an improvement on the last (with the exception of this spin-off, which did ring generic). As far as movies go, the first and third are the only ones worth seeing.

Agreed on the films, like Hurdy also said. But 2 has the best album nonetheless.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2024 - 7:15 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

The Fairy Tale of Wanderings on vol. 3, tr. 5, tr 8, tr 9. All sez Danny boy to me.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2024 - 7:33 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Do you mean this...(?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK8dB2DTGiQ

Cos of the main beat and tempo?

Kinda...but not really to me (although when it started, I did think BEETLEJUICE).

Thanks for playing though wink

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2024 - 8:11 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

That's one track. And I don't think I said lawsuit ripoff. I don't what it's called but I'll say the swagger is very DE.
Right. Next.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2024 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Neither Schnittke nor Elfman are the originators of "oompaisms".

 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2024 - 8:52 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Saw MiB International at the theater with my wife and we both enjoyed it. It was a perfectly enjoyable time at the movies, and the score was equally solid. That said, I have no urge to ever see it again.

I agree MiB3 is much more rewatch-worthy.

Yavar

 
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