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 Posted:   Apr 16, 2024 - 1:44 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

Coming at long last from Criterion on July 2nd - a four disc set (I don't know if there's a UK release yet).

4K UHD + BLU-RAY SPECIAL EDITION FEATURES?
New 4K digital restoration of the 50th Anniversary Release, supervised by editors Paul Seydor and Roger Spottiswoode, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack
New 4K digital restoration of the Original Theatrical Release, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack
Audio commentary for the 50th Anniversary Release featuring Seydor, Spottiswoode, and critic Michael Sragow
Two 4K UHD discs of the films presented in Dolby Vision HDR and two Blu-rays with the films and special features
New 2K digital master of director Sam Peckinpah’s Final Preview Cut, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack
Dylan in Durango, a new interview with author Clinton Heylin about the film’s soundtrack
Passion & Poetry: Peckinpah’s Last Western, a new program about the making of the film
Archival interview with actor James Coburn
Trailer and TV spots
English subtitles for the deaf and hard of hearing
PLUS: An essay by author and critic Steve Erickson

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2024 - 3:09 AM   
 By:   Ny   (Member)

Pretty great. I'm excited to see a proper colour graded version, plus this is a film that's been mistreated enough, it's high time for some tender love and care.

Peckinpah is one of those tough guys beset by roiling emotion, his films contain many bitter swipes, and here it feels like he's simultaneously having a breakdown and to some degree coming to terms with himself. It moves from high tension (opening with three great action sequences) to a tragic fatalism, as the characters, accustomed to the freedom of the west, very gradually find themselves overwhelmed, with no room left to manoeuvre.

Curious to see if an EU release appears. I believe Criterion's international releases have been slowing down of late and I wonder about it's appeal here compared to The Wild Bunch or Cross of Iron. Kristofferson and Bob Dylan are decidedly American folk figures. I wasn't around for the theatrical release but I found it hard to track down when I was in my Peckinpah phase back in the vhs days (I found a copy of Straw Dogs first, which was banned in the uk at the time).

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2024 - 4:21 AM   
 By:   Ny   (Member)

damned double

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2024 - 7:06 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

I'm hoping for a UK release, but not expecting it. I think it needs cuts for animal cruelty & Criterion don't seem to do that, so I'll probably end up importing.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2024 - 5:30 PM   
 By:   Indy1981   (Member)

New 4K digital restoration of the Original Theatrical Release, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack.

Has this ever been issued on VHS or DVD before now?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2024 - 11:43 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

New 4K digital restoration of the Original Theatrical Release, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack.
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Has this ever been issued on VHS or DVD before now?



This VHS 'big box" had the 106-minute theatrical version. It was also pan-and-scan.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2024 - 11:52 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Apparently, this Criterion release is going to drop the 1988 122-minute so-called "Turner Preview Version," which appeared on the two-disc DVD set along with the 2005 115-minute Special Edition restoration. Some people believe the Turner Version better represents Peckinpah's original vision than does the Special Edition. But the "Turner Version" was of poor quality on the DVD, and perhaps that's why it isn't being included by Criterion.

The 106-minute theatrical version was also released on laserdisc in Japan and the UK. But the U.S. laserdisc was the 122-minute Turner version.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2024 - 2:04 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

Apparently, this Criterion release is going to drop the 1988 122-minute so-called "Turner Preview Version," which appeared on the two-disc DVD set along with the 2005 115-minute Special Edition restoration. Some people believe the Turner Version better represents Peckinpah's original vision than does the Special Edition. But the "Turner Version" was of poor quality on the DVD, and perhaps that's why it isn't being included by Criterion.

The 106-minute theatrical version was also released on laserdisc in Japan and the UK. But the U.S. laserdisc was the 122-minute Turner version.


Yup, I prefer the Turner version, but what I didn't know is that it was transferred from a print, & now that print has faded beyond use, so those extra scenes I liked are gone forever (no negative), so I'm keeping hold of my DVD set. I think the main event is the 50th Anniversary Release, which I think is what we call the Seydor cut plus more scenes.

 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2024 - 6:42 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I just learned about this release! Anybody here get the Criterion? Tell us everything!

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2024 - 4:08 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

"Comparison between the Final Preview version on Disc 2 of The Criterion Collection's US 4K/Blu-ray set and the Turner Preview version on Disc 2 of Warner's DVD edition."

https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=64281

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2024 - 5:24 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Without a shadow of doubt, Wild Bunch, Pat Garrett and cross of iron were peckinpah's 3 greatest projects.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2024 - 8:43 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Without a shadow of doubt, Wild Bunch, Pat Garrett and cross of iron were peckinpah's 3 greatest projects.

I'm quite fond of Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia; a nihilistic black comedy if there ever was one.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2024 - 9:01 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

And I'm partial to Cable Hogue .

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2024 - 10:12 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Cue peckinpah fans to list nearly everything he's done.

I didn't say his other stuff wasn't also good, merely that they were his undeniable masterpieces, and for good reason.

Come on, those three were on another universe for scale and power, be honest.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2024 - 10:22 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Well you started it, Bill!

Cross of Iron has fallen through the cracks; it doesn't get the recognition. Hell, I haven't watched it since I was about 15.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2024 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Then when you finish your kitchen sink binge, you need to rectify that.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2024 - 10:45 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Then when you finish your kitchen sink binge, you need to rectify that.

Will do. "Only" 14+ films (and endless reviews) to go...

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2024 - 4:33 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

The YouTube person's delivery might be stilted and wooden (Think: Star Wars dialogue), but he provides a decent review of the new Criterion release. Special mention must be made of the fact that there are stills from the new release, and the video doesn't just consist of the channel owner's unprepossessing mug (Think: Most FSMers).

 
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