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 Posted:   Apr 17, 2024 - 5:52 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I'm sure DS9 is a good show with some smart scripts. I just can't get past the silly looking aliens represented with bumpy prosthetics on their faces. My favorite sci fi have little to no aliens in them. I prefer human drama because I just don't think "Hollywood" creates many credible looking aliens.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2024 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

I'm sure DS9 is a good show with some smart scripts. I just can't get past the silly looking aliens represented with bumpy prosthetics on their faces. My favorite sci fi have little to no aliens in them. I prefer human drama because I just don't think "Hollywood" creates many credible looking aliens.

Battlestar Galactica comes to mind

"It was a feeling shared by Edward James Olmos, who portrayed the stoic Admiral William Adama. Olmos even said that introducing an alien on "Galactica" would be the one thing that would get him to leave the series — to the point where he supposedly had an "anti-alien clause" in his contract, telling NBC News: "The first four-eyed monster that I see, I'm going to faint on camera — then I'm going to get up, and you're going to write me out of the show."

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2024 - 8:40 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I'm sure DS9 is a good show with some smart scripts. I just can't get past the silly looking aliens represented with bumpy prosthetics on their faces. My favorite sci fi have little to no aliens in them. I prefer human drama because I just don't think "Hollywood" creates many credible looking aliens.


That episode is right up that alley, then.
It is a VERY human drama that just happens to take place on a futuristic space station.
Nana Visitor tends to play to the balcony in her acting style, but it is more than balanced out by the gleeful scenery-chewing opponent.
(But, yeah, those makeups... yikes.)

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2024 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I'm sure DS9 is a good show with some smart scripts. I just can't get past the silly looking aliens represented with bumpy prosthetics on their faces. My favorite sci fi have little to no aliens in them. I prefer human drama because I just don't think "Hollywood" creates many credible looking aliens.


That episode is right up that alley, then.
It is a VERY human drama that just happens to take place on a futuristic space station.
Nana Visitor tends to play to the balcony in her acting style, but it is more than balanced out by the gleeful scenery-chewing opponent.
(But, yeah, those makeups... yikes.)


Nana is a good actor, as is Avery, but their style of acting in DS9 is for a play, in a large theater, not TV or film. I am sure the producers gave the approval to go ahead and "CHEW". As often as I have tried it pushes me right out of the episodes. The ones with a lot less, or no Avery and less or no Nana are more watchable. A lot of the other regular cast have better tempered performances for certain. A lot of time the DS9 nerds say that the show is the best this or that, or ages better, but, well, it seems VERY stuck in the 90's to me.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2024 - 1:14 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I'm sure DS9 is a good show with some smart scripts. I just can't get past the silly looking aliens represented with bumpy prosthetics on their faces. My favorite sci fi have little to no aliens in them. I prefer human drama because I just don't think "Hollywood" creates many credible looking aliens.

Battlestar Galactica comes to mind

"It was a feeling shared by Edward James Olmos, who portrayed the stoic Admiral William Adama. Olmos even said that introducing an alien on "Galactica" would be the one thing that would get him to leave the series — to the point where he supposedly had an "anti-alien clause" in his contract, telling NBC News: "The first four-eyed monster that I see, I'm going to faint on camera — then I'm going to get up, and you're going to write me out of the show."


Exactly, I remember EJO making those comments and it’s pretty much how I feel about it.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2024 - 1:18 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I'm sure DS9 is a good show with some smart scripts. I just can't get past the silly looking aliens represented with bumpy prosthetics on their faces. My favorite sci fi have little to no aliens in them. I prefer human drama because I just don't think "Hollywood" creates many credible looking aliens.


That episode is right up that alley, then.
It is a VERY human drama that just happens to take place on a futuristic space station.
Nana Visitor tends to play to the balcony in her acting style, but it is more than balanced out by the gleeful scenery-chewing opponent.
(But, yeah, those makeups... yikes.)


Nana is a good actor, as is Avery, but their style of acting in DS9 is for a play, in a large theater, not TV or film. I am sure the producers gave the approval to go ahead and "CHEW". As often as I have tried it pushes me right out of the episodes. The ones with a lot less, or no Avery and less or no Nana are more watchable. A lot of the other regular cast have better tempered performances for certain. A lot of time the DS9 nerds say that the show is the best this or that, or ages better, but, well, it seems VERY stuck in the 90's to me.


Avery took Shatner’s ham fisted acting style and said, “Hold my beer!”

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2024 - 2:26 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

Battlestar Galactica comes to mind

"It was a feeling shared by Edward James Olmos, who portrayed the stoic Admiral William Adama. Olmos even said that introducing an alien on "Galactica" would be the one thing that would get him to leave the series — to the point where he supposedly had an "anti-alien clause" in his contract, telling NBC News: "The first four-eyed monster that I see, I'm going to faint on camera — then I'm going to get up, and you're going to write me out of the show."


Haha, that's rad. He would've done it, too. big grin

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2024 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Avery took Shatner’s ham fisted acting style and said, “Hold my beer!”


Does anyone else recall that documentary that Shatner made about all the ST captains?
When he gets to Brooks, things take a turn for the weird.
Through no fault of Shatner's, Brooks shows a flakey side that almost defines "cringey".
It is, however, worth it to watch Brooks try to get Shatner to join him for a little jazz-piano scatting.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2024 - 6:01 AM   
 By:   TheAvenger   (Member)



Nana is a good actor, as is Avery.


I disagree about Brooks, I think he is terrible. In the otherwise excellent Spenser for Hire show, Brooks looked like he was reading off cue cards for every scene he was in. And he was one of the biggest reasons I disliked DS9 so much.

Post TOS Trek was replete with bad acting (I know the original was too but it was the 60s and TV was far. ire melodramatic) including people like Michael Dorn and Marina Sirtis, but to my view Brooks was probably the worst offender.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2024 - 6:17 AM   
 By:   Indy1981   (Member)

I disagree about Brooks, I think he is terrible. In the otherwise excellent Spenser for Hire show, Brooks looked like he was reading off cue cards for every scene he was in. And he was one of the biggest reasons I disliked DS9 so much.

Post TOS Trek was replete with bad acting (I know the original was too but it was the 60s and TV was far. ire melodramatic) including people like Michael Dorn and Marina Sirtis, but to my view Brooks was probably the worst offender.


I ran f*cking screaming from TNG when its evil producers shoehorned DS9 into it. I occasionally had a brief look in during TNG's final series and saw the forced Troi-Worf "romance." I tuned in for TNG's finale and felt nothing. 30 years on, and I don't think anyone remembers TNG and its pale spinoffs with any fondness.

P.S. Lately, I've been eating patrami melts with great enthusiasm.

 
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