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 Posted:   Apr 9, 2024 - 6:52 PM   
 By:   NO NAME   (Member)

I would like to know wich one is the one to have.

I have this one :
https://www.discogs.com/fr/master/268938-Bernard-Herrmann-Psycho/image/SW1hZ2U6NjA4NDc3MA==

but what about those 2 ?
https://www.discogs.com/fr/master/268938-Bernard-Herrmann-Psycho?image=3171060.SW1hZ2U6OTQxODAxOQ%3D%3D

https://www.discogs.com/fr/master/525661-Bernard-Herrmann-Joel-McNeely-Royal-Scottish-National-Orchestra-Psycho-The-Complete-Original-Motion-

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2024 - 7:02 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

I confess that I don’t own version of this score(aside from a suite recorded by the COPP) as I’m stubbornly waiting for a legal release of the original recording if it survives. I can’t answer for the second album, but the McNeely recording is pretty good from what I’ve heard of it.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2024 - 7:38 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Get the Elfman recording from 1999.
Short, but covers most of the score and the Sonics, reading, are top shelf.

The Herrmann recording you have is among his last and eerie as hell. Between the slow tempi and
sound quality it's like listening to his ghost, conducting.

The McNeely is good, kind of in between all of these, and it's complete.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2024 - 8:07 PM   
 By:   Roger Feigelson   (Member)

Get the Elfman recording from 1999.
Short, but covers most of the score and the Sonics, reading, are top shelf.

The Herrmann recording you have is among his last and eerie as hell. Between the slow tempi and
sound quality it's like listening to his ghost, conducting.

The McNeely is good, kind of in between all of these, and it's complete.


Minor quibbles aside the Elfman is my go to. He tried to recreate the recording quality of the time and the detail is amazing and tempo spot on

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2024 - 9:34 PM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Agreed with Roger. The Elfman version is closest to the original.

The only pity is that the released album isn't the complete score. I hope it can be expanded.

Is the market big enough for a Stromberg attempt for the best version yet?

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2024 - 11:36 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I second all of the above. The Elfman/Bartek is the way to go (and my only version of this score). Brisk, close-miked, good tempo, impeccable performance, great curation of material (perfect length).

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2024 - 12:25 AM   
 By:   RonBurbella   (Member)

I think we discussed this quite a few years ago, as I remember being contacted a few times by Bernard Herrmann
fans seeking a copy of the original soundtrack score way back then.

There was a commercially-released, note-perfect copy of the complete original Herrmann-conducted soundtrack score.
The issue is that it was released on the analog tracks (mono - both tracks) of the Universal Home Video "Signature Edition"
(3-Disc Box Set) of the film on Laser Disc in 1998 (MCA 43105).

If I recall, one issue was that the analog tracks were "modulated" (volume rises and falls with the film).
What I did in 1998 was to record the modulated tracks onto a CDR, scan the CDR into Sound Forge,
then hit the "Normalize" function to unmodulate the tracks for myself. I'm an amateur, so that was the
best I could do. I thought it came out pretty good.

There are usually copies for sale on eBay. Here's one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/116067112542?itmmeta=01HV5Z5HAV6Z08QRJCEP8BDJKH&hash=item1b0623965e:g:4doAAOSwV6Jlyqnn&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAAwIrnlfLRz6p4f%2FMKaLkeKnVVODrwoWOdj%2FOq9UuIPJlMuay74akw%2FsBg98ktQPnbHkHUm6bXI59wlYjEDFq294v3IE7OODXpZG2X4OGhD9oDiwI7uKEsRo7VOoXmZ8aHl3%2BMAAY%2BeXl%2BwMtMxCcJ%2FDV8wnXFMOBfP2ESKDTw53XkghJvj16dVz835nImd%2F4yrBoAEKeyp%2Bs9AiTuMpyRUCADj2RozDxq6ociJ6qzheaf0fkdS4XdlIMXoiryUy5T2w%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8SVlr_ZYw

The trick is you have to have a working Laser Disc player (which I do) to extract the audio from the analog tracks.
You can find those on eBay also.

Ron Burbella

 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2024 - 10:57 AM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

I'd love a complete release of Elfman's and Bartek's recording. It's superb in every way.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2024 - 9:28 PM   
 By:   NO NAME   (Member)

On the other hand, I'm sure the definitive Stylotone release is on the cusp. As soon as the last psycho ost fan has died.

Yes, like many others like the FLINT movies, HANNA-BARBARA super heroes, 60'S SPIDER-MAN etc.. And like puppets we WAIT and don't dare to to get those nonofficials cds...

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2024 - 11:13 AM   
 By:   NO NAME   (Member)

On the other hand, I'm sure the definitive Stylotone release is on the cusp. As soon as the last psycho ost fan has died.

Yes, like many others like the FLINT movies, HANNA-BARBARA super heroes, 60'S SPIDER-MAN etc.. And like puppets we WAIT and don't dare to to get those nonofficials cds...


The last child ???

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2024 - 4:04 PM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

I’ve had the boot for a few decades, but the sound is atrocious & I haven’t listened to it for many years. Reading this thread, I decided to buy the Elfman recording (there was a CD on eBay that wasn’t outrageously expensive). I could never get on with Bernard’s re-recording, far too ponderous.

Are Stylotone still going? As far as I’m concerned, they can fuck off with their vinyl only releases.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2024 - 8:59 PM   
 By:   RonBurbella   (Member)

So everybody, just do this. Buy a laserdisc player, the laser disc movie, a cdr recorder, and a computer. big grin
Or there's the boot cd of the laserdisc, also ported to the isolated audio on the German 2019 blu-ray.

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Or.....you might simply contact a collector who's already done all that and figure out how to arrange for a copy
to be sent to you.

Ron Burbella

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2024 - 2:27 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Or.....you might simply contact a collector who's already done all that and figure out how to arrange for a copy
to be sent to you.

Ron Burbella


Pending some official release that I'd snap up in a minute, I'd certainly like to do that.

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2024 - 4:03 AM   
 By:   doug raynes   (Member)

I have the Stylotone 45rpm single. The only authorised release of the original score with Prelude and The Murder. Sound quality is very good. The complete score was due to be the label's next release but unfortunately that didn't happen.

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2024 - 8:27 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

I have the Stylotone 45rpm single. The only authorised release of the original score with Prelude and The Murder. Sound quality is very good. The complete score was due to be the label's next release but unfortunately that didn't happen.

I don't get the hate. I purchased Twisted Nerve - a beautiful package all around - gave the LP and extras away and kept the CD and the downloads. Everybody wins.

And, very happily, I was gifted Marnie of which I've kept everything.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2024 - 8:52 AM   
 By:   NO NAME   (Member)

On the other hand, I'm sure the definitive Stylotone release is on the cusp. As soon as the last psycho ost fan has died.

Yes, like many others like the FLINT movies, HANNA-BARBARA super heroes, 60'S SPIDER-MAN etc.. And like puppets we WAIT and don't dare to to get those nonofficials cds...


The last child ???


Is that a query of some sort directed at me?

It was sipposed to be à joke...

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2024 - 11:38 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2024 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   RonBurbella   (Member)

Posted: Apr 13, 2024 - 5:27 AM Report Abuse Reply to Post
By: Stephen Woolston (Member)

Or.....you might simply contact a collector who's already done all that and figure out how to arrange for a copy
to be sent to you.

Ron Burbella

Pending some official release that I'd snap up in a minute, I'd certainly like to do that.

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Hi Stephen,

Please contact me privately. My E-mail if in my profile. I don't seem to have yours and it's not in your profile.

Ron Burbella

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2024 - 12:20 PM   
 By:   NO NAME   (Member)

So this one is a boot ?

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/eXgAAOSwFTJhDzrn/s-l500.jpg

By the way, any reason why some soundtrack like Mancini's A SHOT IN THE DARK never made it in the unofficial world ?

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2024 - 3:53 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I just compared the Elfman recording to the McNeely recording (just a cursory comparison, I would admit), and I cannot say that the Elfman is the preferable recording at all. Not talking about completeness, that is obvious, but simply performance-wise and for acoustical reasons. The McNeely sounds more natural (and bigger) to me, with more room around the instruments. If you want a more "miked and mixed" recording, you may prefer the Elfman version, but if you prefer a more "natural" sounding one, it's the McNeely.
Mind you, I have them all (and I like them all), and I am not "pushing" any recording on you, but I just want to add that the Elfman recording -- as great as it was in the movie -- may not be the one to prefer for purely musical reasons. At least I don't. (But then again, I also really like Herrmann's forceful 70s re-recording of the score.)

 
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