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 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 2:08 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

According to IMDB, Pärt has done a number of original film scores over the years, but I've never heard talk of them, I've never seen any soundtrack releases and I don't know if I have even heard them. I'm guessing a lot of the entries on IMDB are existing pieces by Pärt used in films, that somehow have snuck their way into the 'Composer' category, but anyway...

I wonder if some of you can guide me through this, i.e. give me some original film score recommendations by Pärt, preferably with soundtrack releases?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 2:25 AM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

I skimmed the list, they're almost all shorts. I'd be shocked if he actually wrote anything for more than one or two of them, if any.

People constantly list big name composers at IMDB when they submit credits for their student films and short films and such, even though they just used existing music, often without even licensing it.

I regularly go through the pages for John Williams, John Barry, etc, and try to clean out the student films that pop up constantly.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 2:32 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Indeed. Danny Elfman has a bunch of those too. It's very frustrating, but no doubt done to attract attention to their student films and whatnot.

But I know that Penderecki scored a few films in his life (primarily Polish productions). Nobody talks about those either, only his classical works and the use of his works in films. So I'm guessing Pärt also has a few entries. Then again, you have people like John Adams, who I believe has scored very few films, if any.

It's kinda difficult to find those rare original scores by certain contemporary classical composers.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 2:59 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I know Arvo Pärt's music is used in some movies, but I have not yet heard of a film score he composed. He's a rather reclusive composer.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 7:04 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

Don't know about any films, but just saw my first live performance of a Part work--"Cantus in Memoriam Benjamin Britten"--by the St. Louis Symphony conducted by Stephane Deneve. Also on the bill: a throbbing piece by Lera Auerbach called "Icarus" and Carmina Burana. And Wagner.

Part's piece was mesmerizing, not unlike other things I've heard by him, though I'm no expert.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 8:08 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I've spent a good deal of time trying to clean IMDb pages of crap like this. I still to this day can't get certain entries removes from composer pages, like Leonard Rosenman.

Tracked music, licensed or not, goes under Soundtracks on the title's page; Composer is for original scoring, not stock music, songs, etc.

But it's not just student films, some dude on YouTube made a short film, somebody adds it to IMDb and boom -- there's another thing to clean up from multiple composer pages.

Even worse is when some loser created an entirely new page for a composer already listed. I had to fold two or three new John Williams pages into his for stock music use one time.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 8:47 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

It's also difficult, because sometimes a composer HAS actually done what looks like a random student film addition.

For example, Danny Elfman HAS scored his daugher's short films (DO YOU BELIEVE IN GHOSTS? and DO NOT DISTURB), which on the surface look like such additions.

In any case, from the replies so far, it looks like there is NO confirmed original score entry by Pärt that the FSM membership is aware of. If that's the case, that's a LOT of randos miscrediting him in the 'composer' section.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 9:01 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Thor, while you are here -- did Williams ever do any radio programs music?

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 9:03 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Yeah, having such a large database as IMDB is great, but currating all that data and keep it up to date is a Sisyphean task. So there are a lot of inaccuracies and downright errors in there.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 9:30 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Yeah, having such a large database as IMDB is great, but currating all that data and keep it up to date is a Sisyphean task. So there are a lot of inaccuracies and downright errors in there.


Yeah, but Dune Pärt Two? Really?

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   MusicUnite   (Member)

Looking through the very long list of Arvo Pärt's film music credits on IMDB and finding his original scores versus the use of his concert music in films, is extremely difficult.

I am not aware of any CD containing his film music, but I would love to be proven wrong!

Here are a few examples of Pärt's ORIGINAL scores extracted from DVD/VHS sources:

Diamonds for the Dictatorship of the Proletariat [Estonian: Briljandid proletariaadi diktatuurile] (1975)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkT_P8fMbIA

The Milkman from Maekula [Estonian: Mäeküla piimamees] (1965)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dqdYZ0_NK4

Spring in the Forest [Estonian: Ukuaru] (1973)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_AJETFV5OQ

link to Polish/Estonian co-production scored by Pärt:
Inquest of Pilot Pirx [Estonian: Navigaator Pirx - Polish: Test pilota Pirxa] (1979)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pRW_lF5YsU

Jay

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

https://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/50943/Heaven

The above link takes you to Soundtrack Collector. I don't know the film HEAVEN, but apparently the CD (part of a compilation) only comes with the 9-DVD set of Tom Tykwer films. You're probably aware of that. I'm only relating what I see in front of my eyes.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Thor, while you are here -- did Williams ever do any radio programs music?

Not that I'm aware of, no. He was supposedly involved with some themes and bumpers for KCET in the late 70s, but I have yet to confirm this (the KCET archivist I got in touch with years ago, could find no such records). Besides, I believe that's a television network, not a radio network.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 11:09 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Here are a few examples of Pärt's ORIGINAL scores extracted from DVD/VHS sources:

Fantastic, thanks for the info!

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

What I tend to do is find the short films as possible, then check the end credits -- if it lists music used, then I know it's tracked because I can cross reference track titles, then I try to get the IMDb page fixed.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

https://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/50943/Heaven

The above link takes you to Soundtrack Collector. I don't know the film HEAVEN, but apparently the CD (part of a compilation) only comes with the 9-DVD set of Tom Tykwer films. You're probably aware of that. I'm only relating what I see in front of my eyes.


Tom Tykwer's 2002 film Heaven stars Cate Blanchett and was based on an unfilmed script from the late Krzysztof Kieslowski. It uses a TON of existing licensed Arvo Pärt music as its primary score, but it also has an original score by Tykwer himself in some scenes.

It's similar to the brilliant 1996 movie Mother Night, with Nick Nolte, which also uses a TON of licensed Arvo Pärt music for the major scenes, and has an original score by Michael Convertino in some scenes too.

 
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