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 Posted:   Feb 22, 2024 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 22

BORDERLANDS---trailer released for the movie based on the video game starring Cate Blanchett.

LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU_NKNZljoQ



BOY KILLS WORLD---trailer released for the Sam Raimi action movie starring Bil Skarsgard.

LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=896HkSUH6fs



CHALLENGERS---trailer released for the tennis movie starring Zendaya.

LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VobTTbg-te0



PREY 2---20th Century is in the early stages of developing a sequel to the PREDATOR prequel which starred Amber Midthunder as a Comanche battling a Predator in 1719. Midthunder is talks to return for the sequel, and the plot is rumored to involve kidnapped cryo-frozen human warriors transported to a Predator game preserve to be hunted as in PREDATORS. Also, it would solve the mystery of LAPD Detective Mike Harrigan (Danny Glover) and the Raphael Adolini 1715 flintlock pistol in PREDATOR 2.
PREY 2 is not connected to another 20th Century PREDATOR movie, BADLANDS, which is set in the future with PREY director Dan Trachtenberg returning.





JOKER: FOLIE A DEUX---the sequel's budget is reported to be $200 million compared to the original movie's budget of $60 million. Joaquin Phoenix's sequel salary is reportedly $20 million and Lady Gaga's salary is $12 million.





GODZILLA X KONG: THE NEW EMPIRE---new sequel photo released of the Skar King.





WEAPONS---Josh Brolin is in negotiations to replace Pedro Pascal in the horror movie directed by Zach Cregger (BARBARIAN). Pascal left for THE FANTASTIC FOUR.

SUPERMAN: LEGACY---DC Studios co-head James Gunn commented on rumors his wife and PEACEMAKE star Jennifer Holland and co-star Freddie Stroma are in LEGACY after Gunn posted a selfie with Holland and Stroma, "With Freddie Stroma & @jenniferlholland showing them around the #Superman sets (no they’re not in the movie).”

UNCHARTED 2---Mark Wahlberg commented on the status of the sequel, "Actually, I just got a call today that they got the script in. I can’t grow a real beard and mustache, but they said, ‘Start growing your mustache. It’s gonna take awhile.’ I’d be interested to see what the story’s like, and where that adventure takes us. But I’m excited; I know audiences really loved the first one, so we’ll see.”

PLAYDATE---Alan Ritchson (REACHER) and Kevin James (THE KING OF QUEENS) will star in this action comedy movie about two stay-at-home dads and their sons who go on the run after getting caught up in a deadly conspiracy.

TRIVIA---singer/composer Mel Torme won two Grammy Awards and is best known for composing the classic "The Christmas Song" and co-writing the lyrics. His son, Tracy Torme, was well known for his writing on sci fi tv and movies. He was the head writer on STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION, co-creator of the SLIDERS tv series, wrote the sci fi movie FIRE IN THE SKY, was a consultant on Jodie Foster's CONTACT, co-producer on Will Smith's I AM LEGEND, was a UFO expert and a writer on SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE.

Singer/composer Mel Torme won two Grammy Awards and is best known for composing the classic "The Christmas Song"

LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QzjGDHZw60



Mel Torme with son Tracy.





Tracy Torme's sci fi credits include head writer on STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION (top), co-creator of the SLIDERS tv series (middle) and wrote the sci fi movie FIRE IN THE SKY (bottom).





 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2024 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

JOKER: FOLIE A DEUX---the sequel's budget is reported to be $200 million compared to the original movie's budget of $60 million. Joaquin Phoenix's sequel salary is reportedly $20 million and Lady Gaga's salary is $12 million.

So much for learning you can have a hit with a small budget.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2024 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

JOKER: FOLIE A DEUX---the sequel's budget is reported to be $200 million compared to the original movie's budget of $60 million. Joaquin Phoenix's sequel salary is reportedly $20 million and Lady Gaga's salary is $12 million.

So much for learning you can have a hit with a small budget.


yeah, that is just awful, completely the wrong idea how to make a sequel,

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2024 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)


PREY 2---20th Century is in the early stages of developing a sequel to the PREDATOR prequel which starred Amber Midthunder as a Comanche battling a Predator in 1719. Midthunder is talks to return for the sequel, and the plot is rumored to involve kidnapped cryo-frozen human warriors transported to a Predator game preserve to be hunted as in PREDATORS. Also, it would solve the mystery of LAPD Detective Mike Harrigan (Danny Glover) and the Raphael Adolini 1715 flintlock pistol in PREDATOR 2.
PREY 2 is not connected to another 20th Century PREDATOR movie, BADLANDS, which is set in the future with PREY director Dan Trachtenberg returning.


PREY was a very good entry in the genre. A little too much Indian ninja'ing here and there, but still good. However, having had success telling essentially an unrelated hunting tale, endeavouring to "continue" PREY does not seem wise to me. I would rather they go with yet another new unconnected hunt.

That said, if that is the aim, we will see.

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2024 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

JOKER: FOLIE A DEUX---the sequel's budget is reported to be $200 million compared to the original movie's budget of $60 million. Joaquin Phoenix's sequel salary is reportedly $20 million and Lady Gaga's salary is $12 million.

So much for learning you can have a hit with a small budget.


Compelled to agree. If they go with a smaller budget, they have a smaller guillotine hanging over their heads. I hope the budget doesn't mean another "bigger" superhero movie... good character and disturbing psychosis doesn't need 200 mil.

And will they get 200+ million in viewers for a psycho-killer study project? Is that a reasonable expectation? Silence Of The Lambs and Seven, okay, I guess maybe...

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2024 - 12:19 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I didn’t see the film but it was my understanding it was a character study. People went in droves to see it because it was compelling on a human level. Something Godzilla Minus One just did. Of course a huge part of the budget for this new movie goes to the stars salaries. But did you really need Lady GaGa?

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2024 - 4:04 PM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

I didn’t see the film but it was my understanding it was a character study. People went in droves to see it because it was compelling on a human level. Something Godzilla Minus One just did. Of course a huge part of the budget for this new movie goes to the stars salaries. But did you really need Lady GaGa?

I'm usually fairly positive, but even I'm like "well that skyrocketed to indulgent bullshit pretty quickly." The original was an interesting film, but hardly a franchise tentpole.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2024 - 5:26 AM   
 By:   Clark Wayne   (Member)

The studios never learn.

Sequels used to be looked down on, with slashed budgets and lower returns expected.

Now it seems each film must beat the original.

These stupid salaries being paid need to stop.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2024 - 6:07 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Tracy Torme infamously mistreated and pushed Gates McFadden out of TNG. Who returned after he left.
He also created the Borg, so, he does get some points for that.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 5:25 AM   
 By:   Indy1981   (Member)

Mel Tormé's kids must have hated his guts, as there hasn't been any effort on their part to sustain their father's musical legacy in the 25 years since his death. Maybe he was a rotten father, or maybe they were just rotten kids.

Gates McFadden was a blight on TNG, and her insipid character with her zombie-like performance is one of the many reasons I loathe that show.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 6:06 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)


Gates McFadden was a blight on TNG, and her insipid character with her zombie-like performance is one of the many reasons I loathe that show.


Most of the cast were dry and lacked character. Troy's long agonizing borrrrrrring psycho babble made me want to jump out of a 15 story building.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 7:07 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I think we have to be careful to not blame the actors for the writing.
These two characters did improve over the series run, by the 3rd year and 4th year, it was quite a lot better.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 7:42 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Tracy Torme infamously mistreated and pushed Gates McFadden out of TNG. Who returned after he left.
He also created the Borg, so, he does get some points for that.


That was Maurice Hurley, he was one of the producers and he hated McFadden and he also wrote "Q Who" which introduced the Borg.

The day after Hurley left at the end of the second season, McFadden was rehired. Torme was a writer and he left because he didn't like the backstabbing and BS going on behind the scenes. The first two years was legendary for being a revolving door for writers and producers.

None of the characters were all that well defined until later on. Only a few were truly memorable. Gates was fine she just had nothing to work with. Marina was given annoying material until way later, but even still, she was mostly there to fall in love with the ambassador of the week or be the victim. All the best stuff went to Stewart, Spiner and Dorn. Sometimes Frakes got something good and Riker succeeded on his charisma alone.

I - loved - this show when it aired, but it's probably the most dated of them all at this point. It's often a dry slog after the 4th season as they fell into a pattern of the A/B stories and techno issues became the norm. They stopped exploring and did most of their time policing. The first two seasons were just weird, but they had energy. Seasons 3 and 4 were pretty much perfect, but then they kind of started that rut. Season 7 was wildly uneven. I almost never rewatch this show.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Tracy Torme infamously mistreated and pushed Gates McFadden out of TNG. Who returned after he left.
He also created the Borg, so, he does get some points for that.


That was Maurice Hurley, he was one of the producers and he hated McFadden and he also wrote "Q Who" which introduced the Borg.

The day after Hurley left at the end of the second season, McFadden was rehired. Torme was a writer and he left because he didn't like the backstabbing and BS going on behind the scenes. The first two years was legendary for being a revolving door for writers and producers.

None of the characters were all that well defined until later on. Only a few were truly memorable. Gates was fine she just had nothing to work with. Marina was given annoying material until way later, but even still, she was mostly there to fall in love with the ambassador of the week or be the victim. All the best stuff went to Stewart, Spiner and Dorn. Sometimes Frakes got something good and Riker succeeded on his charisma alone.

I - loved - this show when it aired, but it's probably the most dated of them all at this point. It's often a dry slog after 4th season as they fell into a pattern of the A/B stories and techno issues became the norm. They stopped exploring and did most of their time policing. The first two seasons were just weird, but they had energy. Seasons 3 and 4 were pretty much perfect, but then they kind of started that rut. Season 7 was wildly uneven. I almost never rewatch this show.


Ah, you are so right,I recalled that wrong, thanks Scott

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2024 - 10:27 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Let's not give them too much credit -- the Borg were originally intended to be like insects, but thank your lucky stars for budgets and time constraints.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2024 - 7:38 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I think the Trek show that dated the worst is Deep Space,yeah, I know, it has a cult following. For sure, it does have some interesting qualities, and some good stories, but a lot of it comes across as extremely overacted now, and the mystical stuff substantially overstays throughout the entire series. I really think the most hated Trek show, Enterprise, actually stands up better at this point, and next in line, yes Voyager. As for TNG, yes, the fad of that day, psychology, sometimes plays too much through Troi, but I think that was reigned in quite a lot after 3-4. And there actually are a few cases where she challenges a character to learn something about themselves when she is quite correct. I think as a whole TNG stands up quite well. I have never quite understood how we can toss aside good shows that are from another era, and also celebrate very old, very dated movies, it has never made any sense to me.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2024 - 5:41 AM   
 By:   Indy1981   (Member)

As much as I dislike much of TNG, I will admit that "The Best of Both Worlds" (and the subsequent "Picard recovers" episode) is pretty damned great.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2024 - 8:13 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

As much as I dislike much of TNG, I will admit that "The Best of Both Worlds" (and the subsequent "Picard recovers" episode) is pretty damned great.

I guess anyone can hit a "home run" once in awhile.
Did Jake Sisko ever hit one?

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2024 - 8:43 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

I think the Trek show that dated the worst is Deep Space,yeah, I know, it has a cult following. For sure, it does have some interesting qualities, and some good stories, but a lot of it comes across as extremely overacted now, and the mystical stuff substantially overstays throughout the entire series. I really think the most hated Trek show, Enterprise, actually stands up better at this point, and next in line, yes Voyager.

Avery Brooks had a tendency to go over the top, particularly after they allowed him to shave his head and be more "himself." He was a powerful performer, but like William Shatner, needed a strong director to keep him in check.

Nana Visitor started off really hyperdramatic but settled in over time. The series was most interesting when it delved into the affects of war on the Federation, but honestly, I never was comfortable with Star Trek as a war series. Sure, there was conflict and some space battles, but Trek shouldn't be about that. Over time, the ability to do convincing space battles on TV has taken over the storylines.

Enterprise, I agree, has aged extremely well. It's a much better series than it gets credit for. Other than the original, it's the series I revisit most often.

As much as I dislike much of TNG, I will admit that "The Best of Both Worlds" (and the subsequent "Picard recovers" episode) is pretty damned great.

I guess anyone can hit a "home run" once in awhile.
Did Jake Sisko ever hit one?


TNG had some amazing episodes. Yesterday's Enterprise, The Inner Light, Tapestry, Conspiracy, Darmok, The Defector, The Pegasus, BOBW, and others.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2024 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

I didn’t see the film but it was my understanding it was a character study. People went in droves to see it because it was compelling on a human level. Something Godzilla Minus One just did. Of course a huge part of the budget for this new movie goes to the stars salaries. But did you really need Lady GaGa?

I'm actually okay with those salaries. 20 for Phoenix, 12 for Gaga... that leaves about ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY MILLION! Where the Hell is that going? Is there some skimming off the top going on here? Somebody's secret filch-fund? Organized crime payoffs?

Some journalists in the industry ought to investigate a breakdown of costs here.

 
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