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This is a comments thread about Blog Post: Aisle Seat 1-16: Explaining THE STAR WARS HOLIDAY SPECIAL by Andy Dursin
 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2024 - 6:20 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I do not understand the comment about Last Jedi.
It was a successful film, commercially and critically.
The worst thing about it was exposing the racism of some fans against Rose.

 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2024 - 8:28 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

I do not understand the comment about Last Jedi.
It was a successful film, commercially and critically.
The worst thing about it was exposing the racism of some fans against Rose.


Perhaps, just perhaps, Rose was a shi-te character. It happens all the time in all forms of entertainment. No need to plumb the depths of an imaginary intersection.

 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2024 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

The worst thing about it was exposing the racism of some fans against Rose.

Yes, the famously racist Star Wars fanbase... roll eyes

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2024 - 8:46 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I mean, if you guys want to make yourselves feel better by pretending it never happened, ok.

But

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/star-wars-fandom-racist-misogynistic-messages-show-dark-side-abuse-kelly-marie-tran-2018-06-09/

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2024 - 8:46 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

The worst thing about it was exposing the racism of some fans against Rose.

Yes, the famously racist Star Wars fanbase... roll eyes



Mr Jack, this is, well, really inept

 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2024 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Ah yes, cowering behind "Racism/sexism/homophobia...!" whenever someone complains about badly-written Disney movies and shows...

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2024 - 3:49 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Ah yes, cowering behind "Racism/sexism/homophobia...!" whenever someone complains about badly-written Disney movies and shows...



84 on Metacritic, so, um, yeah, not a bad movie
pathetic straw man antiwoke horse hockey

 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2024 - 9:54 PM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)

I do not understand the comment about Last Jedi.
It was a successful film, commercially and critically.
The worst thing about it was exposing the racism of some fans against Rose.


The Last Jedi is a perfectly entertaining film. Easily my favorite of the sequel trilogy. The overreactions to this film are pretty ridiculous. And I agree, the treatment Kelly Marie Tran received from various trolls is appalling, as was the backlash Moses Ingram received from her character in Obi-Wan. Seeing racist attacks like that makes it a bit embarrassing for me to call myself a Star Wars fan.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 17, 2024 - 12:06 AM   
 By:   barryfan   (Member)

I honestly believe the anti-Rose sentiment had less to with race and more to do with the fact that she wasn't attractive. Hard to think SW fans are anti-Asian when you consider how much Lucas used Asian influences. Look at how Queen Amidala is dressed in The Phantom Menace for example. Or better yet, light saber fights and ancient religions are the stuff of ninjas.

 
 Posted:   Jan 17, 2024 - 1:51 AM   
 By:   judy the hutt   (Member)

I honestly believe the anti-Rose sentiment had less to with race and more to do with the fact that she wasn't attractive. Hard to think SW fans are anti-Asian when you consider how much Lucas used Asian influences. Look at how Queen Amidala is dressed in The Phantom Menace for example. Or better yet, light saber fights and ancient religions are the stuff of ninjas.

must mean there will be no unattractive people in the SW universe.

I liked her and hated to see the abuse. but if you do not read social media it is not important

even if you do read social media....

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 17, 2024 - 5:00 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Thank you Michael, agreed about the film

I think there is some mistaken ideas here.

The notion that because Lucas used Asian influences or cast a black man in Star Wars, and this franchise made money certainly has no connection of any kind to if the Star Wars fan base has any racist people in it. It make as much sense as saying that I am not racist because I work with a black person, or my neighbor is Asian. It just does make any sense. If you would like to say George Lucas is not a racist, that is true. As for the fans, clearly there is an element of lower humanity amongst them. There is a greater coarseness in the Star Wars base, that has this character, and also loves to destroy the things that they supposedly love. And this is just not in the Star Trek fan base, quite the opposite.

 
 Posted:   Jan 17, 2024 - 5:08 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I did not like the sequel STAR WARS trilogy at all. I tried to, but I just didn't like it. They made all the prequels look like movie classics. Though I enjoyed John Williams' scores.

 
 Posted:   Jan 17, 2024 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

I happen to love LAST JEDI, it's possibly my favorite of the sequel trilogy. But, I also happen to be that fan that loves most Star Wars media, being an ardent fan since its origin and finding that much of each trilogy (and Solo and Rogue One) genuinely resonate with different, varying aspects of myself.

 
 Posted:   Jan 17, 2024 - 10:56 AM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

I honestly believe the anti-Rose sentiment had less to with race and more to do with the fact that she wasn't attractive.

Nah. Rose was just a terrible character is a terrible film.

-Erik-

 
 Posted:   Jan 17, 2024 - 10:59 AM   
 By:   SBD   (Member)

I honestly believe the anti-Rose sentiment had less to with race and more to do with the fact that she wasn't attractive.

Mr. Gosling, how does it feel to be on the cusp of an almost certain Oscar nomination for Best Supporting Actor?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 17, 2024 - 12:21 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I honestly believe the anti-Rose sentiment had less to with race and more to do with the fact that she wasn't attractive.

Nah. Rose was just a terrible character is a terrible film.

-Erik-


ridiculous

one of THE biggest problems with the Board, and, well US society in general is the false equation-

I do not like something = that something is terrible.

It is a logically erroneous idea, and fundamentally wrong, and leads to all sorts of ridiculously idiotic conversations.

A film that you do not like is not a "terrible" film, and this one, objectively, by any normal metric, is NOT a terrible film.
In fact it is very highly rated. You are free to despise it, but that does not make it terrible.

 
 Posted:   Jan 17, 2024 - 3:30 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I honestly believe the anti-Rose sentiment had less to with race and more to do with the fact that she wasn't attractive.

Um, wut? I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but Tran cleans up very nicely...


I mean, for her Star Wars look I guess the makeup and hair folks were going for more "cute" than "sexy", but to say she "wasn't attractive" as a "fact"?


Hard to think SW fans are anti-Asian when you consider how much Lucas used Asian influences. Look at how Queen Amidala is dressed in The Phantom Menace for example. Or better yet, light saber fights and ancient religions are the stuff of ninjas.

So because Lucas helped himself to a bit of Asian culture for his fictional universe, fans of it can't be racist against Asians? I know for a fact there are fans of jazz and rock-n-roll who are racist against black folks...

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 17, 2024 - 7:15 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

exactly

 
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