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 Posted:   Nov 30, 2023 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 30

GRISELDA---trailer released for the Netflix miniseries starring Sofia Vergara as drug lord Griselda Blanco.

LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcF0A-Gy-Ng



THE SHIFT---trailer released for the sci fi movie starring Neal McDonough and Sean Astin.

LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxPsTggfdsg



WALT DISNEY---Walt Disney CEO hinted that wokeness in Disney projects might be reduced due to its negative effects on box office success, “Let me start about content and your comment about ‘woke’ characters. Our primary objective in creating content as a company — save for ABC News, which is obviously to inform — is to entertain whether it’s sports, whether it’s Disney, whether it’s Marvel. Make things that entertain people. And the good news is that there’s a marketplace out there that demands entertainment. It’s a fantastic business to be in because of that.”
He added, "I think what had happened over a period of time and was building and building and maybe it reached a peak of some sort while I was gone, is that creators lost sight of what their number one objective needed to be. Often when we entertain and we’ve entertained as a company over the 100 years we’ve been in business, we have entertained with values and with having a positive impact on the world in many different ways. I use BLACK PANTHER as a great example of that, just in terms of fostering acceptance, or the movie COCO, which Pixar did about the Day of the Dead. I like being able to do that: entertain and if you can infuse it with positive messages that have a good impact on the world, fantastic. But that should not be the objective.”
He also commented on THE MARVELS being a box office bomb, ?‘THE MARVELS was shot during Covid. There wasn’t as much supervision on the set, so to speak, where we have executives [that are] really looking over what’s being done day after day after day.”
He added, “I’m not sure another studio will ever achieve some of the numbers that we achieved. I mean, we got to the point where if a film didn’t do a billion dollars in global box office, we were disappointed. That’s an unbelievably high standard and I think we have to get more realistic.”





SNYDERVERSE---Zack Snyder posted the DC Studios Snyderverse has come to an end. Snyder directed three DC Studios movies: MAN OF STEEL, BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE and ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE).





GODZILLA X KONG: NEW EMPIRE---teaser poster released for the sequel movie.





THE APPRENTICE---Sebastian Stan will star in this movie about Donald Trump building his real estate empire in the 1970s and 1980s.

NBC---NBC renewed FOUND and THE IRRATIONAL.

BOB HEARTS ABISHOLA---CBS cancelled the series with the upcoming Season 5 being the last season.

TRIVIA---MARRIED...WITH CHILDREN ran for 11 years and 259 episodes on Fox. However, only one of the episodes of the irreverent series was never shown during the series' original run. In "I'll See You in Court", Al and Peg Bundy try to spice up their sex life at the sleazy Hop-On Inn and discover the Inn secretly videotaped them having sex and also their neighbors, Steve and Marcy Rhoades having sex. The two couples then sue the Hop-On Inn in hopes of getting a big cash settlement. The episode had more than the usual sex jokes which led to Fox demanding a reduction in the sexual content. This was the result of an earlier episode, "My Cups Runneth Over", in which tv activist Terry Rakolta organized a sponsor boycott over the episode's sexual content. Fox feared another loss of sponsors and wanted less sex in "I'll See You in Court". The producers refused to meet all of Fox's demands, so the episode never aired on Fox which led to its "lost episode" status. The episode later aired on FX in an edited version and the complete episode is included in the dvd set.

 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2023 - 11:38 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

WALT DISNEY---Walt Disney CEO hinted that wokeness in Disney projects might be reduced due to its negative effects on box office success, “Let me start about content and your comment about ‘woke’ characters. Our primary objective in creating content as a company — save for ABC News, which is obviously to inform — is to entertain whether it’s sports, whether it’s Disney, whether it’s Marvel. Make things that entertain people. And the good news is that there’s a marketplace out there that demands entertainment. It’s a fantastic business to be in because of that.”
He added, "I think what had happened over a period of time and was building and building and maybe it reached a peak of some sort while I was gone, is that creators lost sight of what their number one objective needed to be. Often when we entertain and we’ve entertained as a company over the 100 years we’ve been in business, we have entertained with values and with having a positive impact on the world in many different ways. I use BLACK PANTHER as a great example of that, just in terms of fostering acceptance, or the movie COCO, which Pixar did about the Day of the Dead. I like being able to do that: entertain and if you can infuse it with positive messages that have a good impact on the world, fantastic. But that should not be the objective.”
He also commented on THE MARVELS being a box office bomb, ?‘THE MARVELS was shot during Covid. There wasn’t as much supervision on the set, so to speak, where we have executives [that are] really looking over what’s being done day after day after day.”
He added, “I’m not sure another studio will ever achieve some of the numbers that we achieved. I mean, we got to the point where if a film didn’t do a billion dollars in global box office, we were disappointed. That’s an unbelievably high standard and I think we have to get more realistic.”


Yeah, Black Panther and COCO really changed the world and solved society's ill's LOL!
Not enough supervision on The MARVELS was the problem? Double LOL!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2023 - 11:40 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Marvels was a story problem, as in, not one.
The whole Marvel verse thing, overlapping, seeing the same characters over and over again, that is a problem.

As for that woke thing, America largely does not give a crap about that anti woke movement.
Just look at the pathetic failures of a guy named Ron from Florida to see how little America cares about it.
You can also look at the stupendous failures of the crazy moms running for school boards across the nation, pfftt.
Most of the nation is not on board with book banning and burning and such, crazy pants nonsense

 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2023 - 11:52 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

There's always some lame knee-jerk person to pile mental diarrhea on the newest target. Reagan, than Bush, then Trump, now Mr. DeSantis, tomorrow: Which ever Republican wins the presidency in 2024. It's really disgusting. A minority or people just won't ever get it/refuse to get it. Thank God they are the minority; if they weren't, things would REALLY be in a sorry state the likes of which isn't readily comprehendible.

But I'm sure what Igor is doing will return Disney to some profits. I don't personally think it'll fully restore the profits they could be making, and it certain won't fix the damage done with the trust of the consumer base, but it'll probably be enough to get by and heap stupid praise of righting the ship and saying he won over Mr. DeSantis. But ultimately, until he goes and a total repudiation and apology occurs, as well as firings, it'll never be the same again. And in the end, I think this is marking what will be a down-hill slide to bottom where some other company will overtake Disney.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2023 - 11:52 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I didn't know Wilson from Castaway was in Godzilla X Kong??

 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2023 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I didn't know Wilson from Castaway was in Godzilla X Kong??

He floated up on the island. Had to go somewhere.

It'll be the spin-off cross-over film nobody asked for: Chuck Noland vs. Kong

Back with FedEx, Chuck goes on the hunt after many sleepless nights thinking about "Wilson", to find "Wilson". He finds the island, finds "Wilson", but in Kong's possession. Kong doesn't want to … play ball.

So, Chuck directs FedEx planes loaded with explosives to Kamikaze into Kong until he can't take it anymore.

You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'' wonder why you paid so much money to see it.





Then you'll see it again.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2023 - 12:27 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

There's always some lame knee-jerk person to pile mental diarrhea on the newest target. Reagan, than Bush, then Trump, now Mr. DeSantis, tomorrow: Which ever Republican wins the presidency in 2024. It's really disgusting. A minority or people just won't ever get it/refuse to get it. Thank God they are the minority; if they weren't, things would REALLY be in a sorry state the likes of which isn't readily comprehendible.

But I'm sure what Igor is doing will return Disney to some profits. I don't personally think it'll fully restore the profits they could be making, and it certain won't fix the damage done with the trust of the consumer base, but it'll probably be enough to get by and heap stupid praise of righting the ship and saying he won over Mr. DeSantis. But ultimately, until he goes and a total repudiation and apology occurs, as well as firings, it'll never be the same again. And in the end, I think this is marking what will be a down-hill slide to bottom where some other company will overtake Disney.


yeah, that is a pretty good take, but I think, at the most, Disney will sell off ABC and perhaps ESPN, but the company is worth a great deal of money, it will never been taken over. Iger is one smart guy, he does need to cleanup the botch of the previous guy and the nonsense acquiesce to Florida. Disney has an enormous economic power and the good will of most Americans, the can really tell Florida Ron to stick it, and make a strong stand for all kinds of people, whoever they love.

 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2023 - 3:56 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

He also commented on THE MARVELS being a box office bomb, ?‘THE MARVELS was shot during Covid. There wasn’t as much supervision on the set, so to speak, where we have executives [that are] really looking over what’s being done day after day after day.”
He added, “I’m not sure another studio will ever achieve some of the numbers that we achieved. I mean, we got to the point where if a film didn’t do a billion dollars in global box office, we were disappointed. That’s an unbelievably high standard and I think we have to get more realistic.”


Never mind the creative bookkeeping that rendered the shoddy Captain Marvel a member of the billion dollar club. They couldn't do that with The Marvels because they'd need to literally blow a billion to fill in the spaces in the ledgers. big grin

 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2023 - 5:40 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)



WALT DISNEY---Walt Disney CEO hinted that wokeness in Disney projects might be reduced due to its negative effects on box office success


 
 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2023 - 6:19 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Ridiculous, leo

 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2023 - 8:57 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Iger seems detached from a truth. So much of Disney's recent media output feels performative and calculated in a blanket social awareness built for morons on social media and the culture trolls who enrich their own brand with reactionary content. Its possible to make an entertaining movie that delivers a valuable social or moral message. For some reason I remember that a lot of people here love things like Star Trek, Planet of the Apes, The Twilight Zone, and so many of the original "woke virus" media of prior generations. l love the films and TV I consume to be entertaining, but l'd also like them to have a point of view. And a story worth telling. So, Mr. Iger, how about you move the needle to stop performing the company's vision in a cynical way and actually invest in great and hungry new storytellers who don't need to remake a beloved animated masterpiece to share their point of view.

Edited to add another thought that these comments in the year of "Barbenheimer" most announces his ignorance. Barbie drew in a massive influx of female audience members, a part of the quadrant that has been shut out by the past two decades of troglodyte little boy entertainment like Superhero movies. Oppenheimer is a stern drama about men talking about the prospect of mass destruction and experiencing the political fallout which lay ahead. Both of these are truly original movies despite one being based on a 64 year old toy and the other being a biopic of a 20th Century titan of science and physics who has already had a few movies made about him. But audiences craved this new thing. And currently, Iger's product is being decimated by a Hunger Games sequel that is by some accounts a very politically-minded young adult Thriller. Nothing is wrong with reflecting on culture and modernism through art and entertainment but there is everything wrong with flooding the market with rehashes, remakes, bloated sequels, and media that the general audience is genuinely bored of.

Edit #2: AND, BOB, DITCH THE SHITTY GREEN SCREEN AND VOLUME WORK THAT IS PLAGUING DISNEY PRODUCTIONS AND MAKING THEM LOOK LIKE ASSEMBLY LINE GARBAGE!

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2023 - 4:17 AM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Justin Boggan: There's always some lame knee-jerk person to pile mental diarrhea on the newest target. Reagan, than Bush, then Trump, now Mr. DeSantis, tomorrow: Which ever Republican wins the presidency in 2024. It's really disgusting. A minority or people just won't ever get it/refuse to get it. Thank God they are the minority; if they weren't, things would REALLY be in a sorry state the likes of which isn't readily comprehendible.

But I'm sure what Igor is doing will return Disney to some profits. I don't personally think it'll fully restore the profits they could be making, and it certain won't fix the damage done with the trust of the consumer base, but it'll probably be enough to get by and heap stupid praise of righting the ship and saying he won over Mr. DeSantis. But ultimately, until he goes and a total repudiation and apology occurs, as well as firings, it'll never be the same again. And in the end, I think this is marking what will be a down-hill slide to bottom where some other company will overtake Disney.


Did you slip too much vodka into your Mountain Dew, Justin?

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2023 - 4:50 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

we have entertained with values and with having a positive impact on the world in many different ways. I use BLACK PANTHER as a great example of that, just in terms of fostering acceptance, or the movie COCO, which Pixar did about the Day of the Dead. I like being able to do that: entertain and if you can infuse it with positive messages that have a good impact on the world, fantastic. But that should not be the objective.”

The problem here is the great discrepancy between how Disney (and Disney is especially guilty of this) view themselves, and what they actually are. Nobody objects to entertainment that you infuse with "positive messages" that have a good impact. The problem is when you start infusing movies/stories of all kinds with all kinds of "messages" that you think are "positive messages" but are mostly just your own agenda and ideology that get forced into stories and concepts where they don't even fit, let alone "ring true". That's what people object to and why they don't show up at the box office.
How has BLACK PANTHER "fostered acceptance"? It was just a super box office hit because it was a good and entertaining Marvel superhero movie. There was no problem with "acceptance"? Who was not "accepted" before and was "accepted" as a result of this movie? Same with COCO. I saw COCO when it came out, it was a marvelously wonderful film, one of Pixar's finest movies. But has it fostered any "acceptance"? It told a great story in an original way, THAT is why the movie was successful.
People don't really care about the ethnicity or sex of characters in a movie, what they care about is that the characters are compelling and ring true. But what they dislike is being preached to.
Just about all movies, all good stories really, have some sort of meaning and message, but it should be a message that rings true and gets people to think and feel. It should be a message that is ringed with even within the story. If the message, whatever the message is, is just blatantly hollow, stuffed in and doesn't get put through the grinder, it becomes propaganda.
COCO was a great movie because it told a good story in a visually exciting environment, not because it fostered "acceptance".
And both BLACK PANTHER and COCO were box office hits. So obviously movies like that are not Disney's problem.

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2023 - 6:13 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Its just falls on deaf ears. If you don't know the difference between Disney of the 90's and Disney of the 2010's you'll never get. Or "you're" being dishonest about it. There's no honest discussion to be had. Changing for the better requires admitting you have a problem. Until that day comes its like talking to a brick wall.

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2023 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Disney had probably their most successful decade of all in the 2010s so I'm not sure what you are implying, Solium.

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2023 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Disney had probably their most successful decade of all in the 2010s so I'm not sure what you are implying, Solium.

You mean its only been three years since its all gone to sh*t? Seems much longer!

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2023 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Honestly the whole world seems to have taken the same nose dive to shit in the last three years since the pandemic. At least Western culture. Death and destruction at an unbelievable amount; politics became hyper-focused on culture and personal lifestyle of individuals over policy and integrity; the cost of living is expanding the lower classes and shrinking the upper class; et al. It's the downward spiral and Disney just needs scapegoats to throw under the bus rather than insult their shareholders.

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2023 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Honestly the whole world seems to have taken the same nose dive to shit in the last three years since the pandemic. At least Western culture. Death and destruction at an unbelievable amount; politics became hyper-focused on culture and personal lifestyle of individuals over policy and integrity; the cost of living is expanding the lower classes and shrinking the upper class; et al. It's the downward spiral and Disney just needs scapegoats to throw under the bus rather than insult their shareholders.

No argument from me and of course there are far more serious and pressing issues inflicting humanity than Hollywood films.
That said, the one saving grace was entertainment which used to be a valuable release valve for people. Now there is no escapism from the harsh realities of everyday living.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2023 - 6:13 AM   
 By:   Phil567   (Member)

Disney in the news yesterday.

https://treasurer.sc.gov/about-us/newsroom/treasurer-loftis-removes-disney-from-state-portfolios/

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2023 - 6:19 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Disney in the news yesterday.

https://treasurer.sc.gov/about-us/newsroom/treasurer-loftis-removes-disney-from-state-portfolios/


That is conservative posturing, but, still news

 
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