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 Posted:   Apr 30, 2023 - 12:39 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Available on their forum (or if that’s acting up for you it’s also on their Soundtrack Club Facebook page):
http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=9052

I wonder why Doug Fake’s Hugo Friedhofer favorite, Joan of Arc, isn’t here as an option this time as it finished in an impressive 4th place in their previous poll, behind only the unsurprising top trio of Goldsmith/Rozsa/Herrmann and ahead of Seale’s The Haunting which is in this new poll…

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2023 - 12:58 PM   
 By:   Gold Digger   (Member)

Would pick Ransom if it was there but will select the Chairman.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2023 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Why is Kings of the Sun there? Do people not like the Silva re-recording that came with FSM's Bernstein set? I found it a bit sluggish, but not so bad as to need a re-do.

Either of Samson and Delilah or Helen of Troy would be my first choice. But the vote won't register.

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2023 - 1:05 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I agree Basil, and voiced exactly that on their FB group. Joan of Arc should absolutely be there in its place. (Or heck if they want a Bernstein option I’d either put The Ten Commandments or a twofer of Robot Monster/Cat Women of the Moon!)

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2023 - 1:11 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Yes, The Ten Commandments should be on the list, if only to make up for the often grim-sounding patchwork-quilt of an original soundtrack release Intrada put out.

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2023 - 1:24 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Either of Samson and Delilah or Helen of Troy would be my first choice. But the vote won't register.

Yeah the Intrada forum has been having intermittent issues… it didn’t let me post but it did let me vote. I feel like a bad Goldsmith fan because I voted for Schumann’s Night of the Hunter! Right now that’s in second place (3 votes) behind The Chairman (4 votes).

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2023 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   Katsoulas   (Member)

Roger Feigelson We need unreleased scores first. Garden of Allah The woman in white Escape from Japan, Mission to Moscow, Passage to Marseille The life of Emile Zola- Steiner . The mark of Zorro, The adventures of Halli Baba, Nana - Newman. Joan of Arc , Beauty and the beast - Hugo F. The Four Feathers Rozsa The three musketeers, Anna Karenina Maria Anttouannete, Mutiny on the Bounty Romeo and Juliet , David Copperfield Treasure island Herbert Stonhart. Son of Sinbad, Calcutta - Victor Young

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2023 - 1:35 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Several of the voting options Roger provided are unreleased, Katsoulas. Goldsmith’s The Waltons, Steiner’s The Big Sleep, Searle’s The Haunting? (And do you count Night of the Hunter as “released”, just because it had that weird “story album” with narrator??) Why not vote for one of them?

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2023 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   Katsoulas   (Member)

You are right, my friend. I say this for the rest of the contenders. As for my knowledge, for me, epic scores for a large symphony orchestra are preferred, so I vote for Helen of Troy. It is Steiner's best score and the 45 minutes that exist are just a foretaste. As for the complete, it has one of the worst sounds out there.

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2023 - 1:55 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I'm sure they only listed scores they consider have decent shots at being funded, and they understand what the costs involved would be.

I would imagine those calculations are based on things we may know (composition of orchestra and length of score), things we have only some awareness of (the composers' sales records), and things we have no idea of (such as whether the sheet music is extant or whether it would have to be reconstructed by ear).

I would enthusiastically support most of these suggestions. I don't pretend to know their business the way they do.

As for "needing" unreleased scores first, I don't really understand that way of thinking. For instance, I am not an audiophile, but to me, The Chairman is almost unlistenable. Yes, I can check it off as a score I own but not one I can listen to, and isn't that the point?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2023 - 1:58 PM   
 By:   chriscoyle   (Member)

This is what Roger posted with the poll. I’m thinking they’ve already chosen the next project.

“We're currently reviewing scores for a few options for our next Kickstarter, but we'd also like to take a new poll on possible projects. Note that this is just one data point among many that determines which projects move ahead, but it is helpful. Choose your one favorite option!”

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2023 - 2:03 PM   
 By:   Ny   (Member)

They'll nod their heads at the Goldsmith landslide. I'm hoping I'll earn a raised eyebrow with my single vote for The Haunting.

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2023 - 2:08 PM   
 By:   robertmro   (Member)

Here we go again.

My thoughts:

1: The Haunting (Humphre Searle) - One of the first and best atonal scores (and very influential as such on many film composers including Jerry Goldsmith among others) for an iconic film. Very beautiful and atmospheric.

2: The Big Sleep (Max Steiner) - Just a glorious score for a great movies and an excellent example of the Maestros' range. A very different approach from the other film noir composers. Fun listening.

3: Spirit of St. Louis (Franz Waxman) - Powerhouse score for a great film. The only reason not to record it is that the original recordings exist (though not in stereo).

Do we really need another Goldsmith recording and besides these scores have been covered already. Kings of the Sun (Elmer Bernstein) has been covered already too. Night of the Hunter (Walter Schumann) is interesting but is it deserving of a special treatment? I'm not sure.

There are some good recordings of Jungle Book (Miklos Rozsa) already though none complete. Helen of Troy (Max Steiner) and Samson and Delilah (Victor Young) are worth considering.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2023 - 2:09 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

This is what Roger posted with the poll. I’m thinking they already know the next project.

“We're currently reviewing scores for a few options for our next Kickstarter, but we'd also like to take a new poll on possible projects. Note that this is just one data point among many that determines which projects move ahead, but it is helpful. Choose your one favorite option!”


That quote certainly leaves the door open for a potential Joan of Arc recording. I too am surprised and by its absence from this poll, but I shall continue to hope for a new recording of the score.

In light of Joan of Arc’s absence, in spite of my love of Rózsa and Waxman (I recently re-listened to the Varese of Spirit earlier this week), I ultimately voted for Helen of Troy as I’ve really come to like this score after viewing a restored print of the film earlier this month on TCM, plus the lack of a decent version of the score makes it even more desirable.

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2023 - 2:26 PM   
 By:   robertmro   (Member)

They'll nod their heads at the Goldsmith landslide. I'm hoping I'll earn a raised eyebrow with my single vote for The Haunting.

No raised eyebrow from me.

It's the best choice in my view and I hope Intrada.

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2023 - 2:30 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

You are right, my friend. I say this for the rest of the contenders. As for my knowledge, for me, epic scores for a large symphony orchestra are preferred, so I vote for Helen of Troy. It is Steiner's best score and the 45 minutes that exist are just a foretaste. As for the complete, it has one of the worst sounds out there.

Ah, but now you can’t blame Intrada for providing expansion options like The Chairman (which also has very poor sound, being mastered from that half hour LP because the tapes are lost), because you yourself have voted for an expansion over any of the premiere options! wink

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2023 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

When I can get it to work I'll vote for Helen Of Troy (Max Steiner), but not with too much hope, as I'm sure it would be a very expensive project (large orchestra, long score). The Haunting (Humphrey Searle) would be a lot cheaper, as it's a smaller chamber score (& I'd buy it), but sales could be low.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2023 - 2:35 PM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

JOAN OF ARC requires a chorus, which may be a financial obstacle to a Kickstarter campaign. However, Tadlow managed to fund KING OF KINGS this way so you never know.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2023 - 2:41 PM   
 By:   Katsoulas   (Member)

You are right, my friend. I say this for the rest of the contenders. As for my knowledge, for me, epic scores for a large symphony orchestra are preferred, so I vote for Helen of Troy. It is Steiner's best score and the 45 minutes that exist are just a foretaste. As for the complete, it has one of the worst sounds out there.

Ah, but now you can’t blame Intrada for providing expansion options like The Chairman (which also has very poor sound, being mastered from that half hour LP because the tapes are lost), because you yourself have voted for an expansion over any of the premiere options! wink

Yavar


Well Hellen of Troy vs Chairman ...One of my top 10 scores of all time, and one very good score... Huge difference

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2023 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   oregstevens   (Member)

I'm not sure going to the effort to re-record titles already represented is the best path to follow, but seeing THE CHAIRMAN toping the poll demonstrates the widest audience for this enterprise.

I am disappointed not to see any Alex North (STAGE STRUCK), Rozsa (A DOUBLE LIFE, A WOMAN'S VENGEANCE) or Friedhofer (THE BRIDE OF VENGEANCE) as options.

 
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