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 Posted:   Mar 22, 2023 - 4:36 PM   
 By:   MutualRevolver   (Member)

Couldn't find a thread for this, so I thought I'd create one for the score by Astor Piazzolla...I mean, Paul Buckmaster.

It's an interesting and erratic score, albeit largely married to the film and too reliant on high trumpets for my taste. However, I'll never forget my bewildered reaction when I heard "Suite Punta Del Este" as part of the opening credits, initially expecting a more straightforward, ominous sound to the film. But in time, I grew to love the way that tango was incorporated into the score; indeed, one could say that it overshadows the underscore for Cole and Railly's relationship.

Anyone else a fan, and wouldn't mind seeing the OST in circulation again, or even expanded? The instruments in the film and OST also appear to be placed/mixed differently, so that could be another reason for a reissue.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2023 - 5:10 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

Huge Piazzolla fan. Shelves and shelves of his music. Saw this film when it came out and thought Piazzolla's music was perfect and really added life to the film. Buckmaster's score I don't remember. I do like his contribution to Miles Davis's controversial On the Corner album from 1972, adding a sort of Stockhausen element to the raga-like funk. Vastly underrated album.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2023 - 5:40 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

I only remember our own LK refer to the Buckmaster 12 Monkeys material as "generic 70s suspense scoring".
Now, that's ingrained in my memory forever! It is a good album, typical wild mix of elements, akin to Gilliam's The Fisher King album.

I wanted to add Most Wanted by Buckmaster is a fun 90's action score, cd on Milan. Worth a hearing, if you miss that era of acoustic percussion and suspense scoring.

And Elton John.

Thus ends the saga of Paul Buckmaster....oh wait, there was an event in the 90's, some BMI award thing, that had a pictorial spread in FSM, where composers wore these...they looked like medallions. Someone will remember this pictorial!
Anyway, Buckmaster looks like freaking Dracula in his pics, and I only ever see that Lugosi cum Count Floyd-like stare in my mind when his name comes up.

Woooo, scared kids!

 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2023 - 8:30 PM   
 By:   MutualRevolver   (Member)

I only remember our own LK refer to the Buckmaster 12 Monkeys material as "generic 70s suspense scoring".

Surely he didn't include the beautiful violin solos for the dream sequences in that description!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2023 - 8:54 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

I only remember our own LK refer to the Buckmaster 12 Monkeys material as "generic 70s suspense scoring".

Surely he didn't include the beautiful violin solos for the dream sequences in that description!


I'll have to dig out the issue. I only remember what I said above, very dismissive, exceptthe joy of hearing Herrmann's Vertigo used in the film, and a 'diss' review of the WB album for Michael Mann's HEAT, on the same page, under the guise of Auteur soundtrack albums. He said Heat was just a wash of electronic noise.

Hey LK, how about a blog post measuring the Heat Soundtrack & score vs. REAL washes of empty electronic noise that we're served up now, endlessly!
Makes the Goldenthal et al scoring seem like Korngold now, eh?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2023 - 2:45 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I always liked the 12 MONKEYS soundtrack (source music and original score) and loved the film too.
The Piazzolla piece was perfect in its somewhat quirky/crazy off-beat way, and the Buckmaster score had that 70s Schifrin/Fielding-like haunted coldness, apart from the sad violin lament for the main two characters (and the whole human race).
Classic stuff.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2023 - 2:51 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Here's an old thread about the film and score...

https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=72764&forumID=1&archive=0

Sh!t...I'm turning into Thor eek

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2023 - 3:01 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Such sad, but beautiful music...

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2023 - 3:06 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

And here's the QUIRK, with added Buckmaster (I assume Buckmaster re-did the Piazzolla piece with added dramatic moments)?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2023 - 3:28 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

On a related note...I don't know which came first, but whenever this track starts playing on the CD, I start singing BORN FREE by John Barry...

 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2023 - 11:40 AM   
 By:   MutualRevolver   (Member)

Here's an old thread about the film and score...

https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=72764&forumID=1&archive=0

Sh!t...I'm turning into Thor eek


Wow! I had completely forgotten that I had posted in that thread. And I was a bit wrong; we do have almost all of the score on CD (albeit with some different mixes), and all that's missing is a variation of "Introduccion" heard just before "Giraffes and Flamingos" and the film version of "Fugitives"

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2023 - 8:12 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Looking over Gilliam's director resume (not counting co-director of MP/Holy Grail), 12 MONKEYS is easily my favourite film by Terry Gilliam.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2023 - 8:50 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Sean said "I wanted to add Most Wanted by Buckmaster is a fun 90's action score, cd on Milan. Worth a hearing, if you miss that era of acoustic percussion and suspense scoring"
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Playing my CD of MOST WANTED now.
As noted by S, it's solid orchestral/percussion action suspense music, if somewhat lacking a strong main theme or motif to hang it all together.
A bit of a JNH/FUGITIVE vibe running through it at times.
The track titles/times are ONLY printed on the disc itself.
I had to type up an inlay sheet and slide it in with the barebones booklet so I know where I'm at.

 
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