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 Posted:   Feb 27, 2023 - 9:16 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

"The Ghost and Mrs. Muir is a 1947 American romantic fantasy film from 20th Century-Fox starring Gene Tierney and Rex Harrison. It was directed by Joseph L. Mankiewicz, and is based on a 1945 novel written by Josephine Leslie under the pseudonym of R.A. Dick. In 1945, Fox bought the film rights to the novel, published only in the United Kingdom at that time. It was shot entirely in California." - Wikipedia

The score is one of Bernard Herrmann's most astonishing and beautiful compositions. It has had several recordings, including one by Elmer Bernstein for his Film Music Collection and the original tracks was also issued.

This is a suite performed by the Prescott Pops Symphony Orchestra.

 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2023 - 12:43 AM   
 By:   PollyAnna   (Member)

Such beauty. What orchestras were invented for. I especially love the Bernstein performance.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2023 - 1:51 AM   
 By:   JB Fan   (Member)

Most sad thing with this amazing Herrmann score is that Varese didn't release proper master (especially with no crossfade on End Titles), when they have chance to do it frown

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2023 - 5:19 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

My favorite Herrmann score, and that is saying something.

And isn't it ironic that a composer who excelled in unorthodox instrumentation for horror, sci-fi, and suspense would write his best score in a richly romantic style for a conventional orchestra.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2023 - 5:26 AM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

Most sad thing with this amazing Herrmann score is that Varese didn't release proper master (especially with no crossfade on End Titles), when they have chance to do it frown

The Fox Box version fixed this issue.

 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2023 - 7:39 AM   
 By:   mgh   (Member)

One of the best scores ever written, and perhaps the best. It becomes the soul of the film.

 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2023 - 7:43 AM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

My favorite Herrmann score.

It would make a perfect Varese CD Club reissue of the box set disc (which was taken from better, more recently discovered elements.)

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2023 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

My favorite Herrmann score.

And Herrmann's own favorite, incorporating music from Wuthering Heights and Jane Eyre. The Bernstein recording is the best in his series.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2023 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

Because it has leitmotifs, Herrmann jokingly referred to it as his "Max Steiner score"!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2023 - 5:57 PM   
 By:   Dr Johnny Fever   (Member)

Love this movie and the score always gets to me. So many great scenes that are elevated by Hermann's score. The deteriorating pier with the daughter's name carved on it with the waves crashing on it, what a eloquent way to express the passage of time.

Here's hoping for a new release of this score in the near future.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2023 - 6:26 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Oh Dr you are sooooooo right. The music and the camera becomes a "character" in this moment. Right then and there this is when he wins the Oscar if he had won the Oscar. Another perfect marriage between film and music.

at 1:05--

 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2023 - 1:22 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I would love for this to get a new recording (despite there already being two recordings), it's one of my favorite Herrmann scores. The original performance is wonderful but could clearly benefit from better sonics.

 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2023 - 7:36 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I would love for this to get a new recording (despite there already being two recordings), it's one of my favorite Herrmann scores. The original performance is wonderful but could clearly benefit from better sonics.

I concur.

The original soundtrack recording doesn't sound great.

The Bernstein recording is, of course, absolutely adorable, but it's not complete and the main title doesn't have quite the same voicing in the bass instruments as the original version.

If a new recording was made, I would still listen to the Bernstein and love it, but I would be all over a new recording by someone like William Stromberg like a rash.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2023 - 7:48 AM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

The Bernstein recording is, of course, absolutely adorable, but it's not complete and the main title doesn't have quite the same voicing in the bass instruments as the original version.

If a new recording was made, I would still listen to the Bernstein and love it, but I would be all over a new recording by someone like William Stromberg like a rash.


Agreed. One other change in the Bernstein recording was in "Sorrow" where the violin/cello duet is presented by the whole orchestra - an alternate version perhaps? It gives a more massive sound but it's a different effect than the more intimate sound of the original. And of course the "Andante Cantabile" wasn't recorded.

 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2023 - 7:56 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

This is one of my favorite scores ever. I have the Bernstein recording. I'd love a new recording, perhaps Lydia Tár conducting the Berlin Philharmonic? eek

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2023 - 11:25 AM   
 By:   JohnnyRoastbeef   (Member)

That Elmer Bernstein didn't include the Andante Cantabile in his recording boggles my mind.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2023 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

That Elmer Bernstein didn't include the Andante Cantabile in his recording boggles my mind.

Actually, it was a smart move, given the time-limited format. We already had that music in the Wuthering Heights album.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2023 - 4:31 PM   
 By:   films1   (Member)

This is Herrmanns masterpiece ... and its a truly wonderful score .

I would love to see a re reciording , although the bernstein is so good.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2023 - 6:44 PM   
 By:   Dr Johnny Fever   (Member)

Oh Dr you are sooooooo right. The music and the camera becomes a "character" in this moment. Right then and there this is when he wins the Oscar if he had won the Oscar. Another perfect marriage between film and music.



Couldn't have said it better about the perfect marriage. I truly believe this is one of the most romantic movies ever and Herrmann's score simply haunting.

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2023 - 11:38 PM   
 By:   Zoragoth   (Member)

The Bernstein recording is, of course, absolutely adorable, but it's not complete and the main title doesn't have quite the same voicing in the bass instruments as the original version.

If a new recording was made, I would still listen to the Bernstein and love it, but I would be all over a new recording by someone like William Stromberg like a rash.


Agreed. One other change in the Bernstein recording was in "Sorrow" where the violin/cello duet is presented by the whole orchestra - an alternate version perhaps? It gives a more massive sound but it's a different effect than the more intimate sound of the original. And of course the "Andante Cantabile" wasn't recorded.


I noted the difference in Sorry, with the epic orchestral overlay - and just love it. That soaring pathos is almost too beautiful to bear.

 
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