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 Posted:   Jun 1, 2023 - 4:01 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

"Femininity" is typically used as a demure term. "Masculinity" can describe more powerful or domineering traits. I think the reason "toxic" was so easy to affix itself to the word "masculinity" is because it is the "masculine" men in society who cripple governments with bad policies and governing and start wars with one another. There can be toxic women, no doubt. We've probably all known a few (or more) in our own lives.

I've never in my life heard anyone use the term "white masculinity" until I logged onto FSM one day. I'm not even sure I could define what it could possibly mean.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 1, 2023 - 4:54 PM   
 By:   WillemAfo   (Member)

"Femininity" is typically used as a demure term. "Masculinity" can describe more powerful or domineering traits. I think the reason "toxic" was so easy to affix itself to the word "masculinity" is because it is the "masculine" men in society who cripple governments with bad policies and governing and start wars with one another. There can be toxic women, no doubt. We've probably all known a few (or more) in our own lives.

I've never in my life heard anyone use the term "white masculinity" until I logged onto FSM one day. I'm not even sure I could define what it could possibly mean.


I can't see the original post but if it's a more pedantic conversation I think "heteronormative masculinity" or "hegemonic masculinity" may fit whatever the person was trying to talk about.

Recently I had been listening to an interview with Brad Fiedel about his score for "The Terminator" and he was mentioning how the film's producer Gale Anne Hurd was being kind of an a**hole to him in their initial meeting.

I looked it up and apparently it's a reputation she has, and an article interviewed her where she said something like she has a reputation as being a bitch and she's proud of it because men would never be called that.

While I get the semantics of her point, she's missing the big picture, like "toxic masculinity" does, that any gender or ethnicity in a position of power can exhibit toxic behaviors. For her, while "bitch" is a gendered insult, plenty of male executives in this industry are called "assholes" because their behaviors are exactly that.

Granted, there are historical rationales that "toxic masculinity" is tapping into, but that's coming from the nuance of academic discourse. In the hands of the average citizen, that term tends to get wielded very poorly.

 
 Posted:   Jun 1, 2023 - 5:00 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

I have a close and lovely friend who worked years as a locations manager on The Walking Dead and can confirm for you that Gale Anne Hurd is abrasive and generally not considered a pleasant person to work under. She gets the job done though.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 1, 2023 - 5:20 PM   
 By:   WillemAfo   (Member)

I have a close and lovely friend who worked years as a locations manager on The Walking Dead and can confirm for you that Gale Anne Hurd is abrasive and generally not considered a pleasant person to work under. She gets the job done though.

Yeah, it's too bad Brad Fiedel had the experience he had but for sure she definitely has that producer energy and if that's on your side to go up against sharks, you'll be happy she's there.

And then there are the cases where people aren't that bad and it's just basic simple politics.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2023 - 5:13 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

What about toxic femininity? Is that a thing?


Yes, and we'll leave it that.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2023 - 5:21 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

I got bored a few times especially with the Ursula parts.

Maybe someone (Melissa McCarthy) was hoping that audiences (or the CEO of Disney) will ask for a Maleficient-type retcon showing Ursula wasn't really bad just misunderstood. roll eyes

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2023 - 11:01 AM   
 By:   WillemAfo   (Member)

I got bored a few times especially with the Ursula parts.

Maybe someone (Melissa McCarthy) was hoping that audiences (or the CEO of Disney) will ask for a Maleficient-type retcon showing Ursula wasn't really bad just misunderstood. roll eyes


You know Disney has those pretentiously-titled prequel movies cued up in their quarterly and annual schedule projections that go into the 22nd century:

"URSULA"
"ARIEL"
"TRITON"

probably the same for other Disney-owned franchises:

"LEIA"
"JEDI"
"SABER"

"INDY"
"WHIP"
"FEDORA

"WALT"
"BRAIN"
"CRYOGENIC"

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2023 - 3:10 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

The new soundtrack is quite good, I've really been enjoying it!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2023 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   Don Norman   (Member)

The new soundtrack is quite good, I've really been enjoying it!

It has a good and good sounding underscore by Menken. I just listened to "Part of Your World" and "Finale" on Amazon Music. The CD should be worth getting.

 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2023 - 11:50 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I got bored a few times especially with the Ursula parts.

Maybe someone (Melissa McCarthy) was hoping that audiences (or the CEO of Disney) will ask for a Maleficient-type retcon showing Ursula wasn't really bad just misunderstood. roll eyes


You know Disney has those pretentiously-titled prequel movies cued up in their quarterly and annual schedule projections that go into the 22nd century:

"URSULA"
"ARIEL"
"TRITON"

probably the same for other Disney-owned franchises:

"LEIA"
"JEDI"
"SABER"

"INDY"
"WHIP"
"FEDORA

"WALT"
"BRAIN"
"CRYOGENIC"


"FINDING FLOUNDER"

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2023 - 12:27 PM   
 By:   WillemAfo   (Member)

I got bored a few times especially with the Ursula parts.

Maybe someone (Melissa McCarthy) was hoping that audiences (or the CEO of Disney) will ask for a Maleficient-type retcon showing Ursula wasn't really bad just misunderstood. roll eyes


You know Disney has those pretentiously-titled prequel movies cued up in their quarterly and annual schedule projections that go into the 22nd century:

"URSULA"
"ARIEL"
"TRITON"

probably the same for other Disney-owned franchises:

"LEIA"
"JEDI"
"SABER"

"INDY"
"WHIP"
"FEDORA

"WALT"
"BRAIN"
"CRYOGENIC"


"FINDING FLOUNDER"


Nice, but it has to be one word to fit the criteria of "this is so self-important that we don't need more than one word to introduce it" (like mononyms for important people).

Maybe:

"FLOUNDER"
"GUPPY"
"FOUND"

 
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