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 Posted:   Feb 6, 2023 - 12:12 PM   
 By:   jgb   (Member)

In the mid-90s, Hans Zimmer went to London to work on and record Crimson Tide. He used space at Richard Harvey's studio; Richard had given him free studio space in the days when he was a starving artist with no money.

Richard's assistant at the time was a young Harry Gregson-Williams, and he ended up helping Hans on some stuff including the choral conducting. Hans went back to America after, but a few months later he called Harry to say his current assistant Nick Glennie-Smith was basically graduating and now he'd need help.

Harry came over, initially to help on Muppet Treasure Island, and became part of the first wave of Media Ventures assistants alongside John Powell, Jeff Rona, Klaus Badelt, and others. He met Jerry Bruckheimer, Jeff Katzenberg, and Tony Scott. Maybe he ends up making it to Hollywood later in life without Hans' invite, but he probably wouldn't have gotten these opportunities as quickly.

Harry is now obviously very much his own composer, but he's kept this system of musical apprenticeships going, and his third-ish wave of assistants included Stephanie Economou, who he met at a UCLA event and helped out on a number of 2010s scores including The Martian and The Meg.

Last night, Stephanie won the first-ever Grammy for best video game / interactive media score. She obviously got it on her own merits, but you can trace this back to Richard Harvey being a nice guy decades earlier.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2023 - 12:35 PM   
 By:   PollyAnna   (Member)

Love 6 degrees of separation game, hours of fun finding the links!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2023 - 12:29 AM   
 By:   Tobias   (Member)

Apparently I had not awaken up enough this morning when I read the topic headline because I initially thought that Hans, Harry and Stephanie was sccoring a new film by the name of 6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon. Sorry but let`s face it you and me got a laugh out of it and that`s nothing bad with that.

Anyway congrats to Stephanie for her Grammy.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2023 - 12:45 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Apparently I had not awaken up enough this morning when I read the topic headline because I initially thought that Hans, Harry and Stephanie was sccoring a new film by the name of 6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon. Sorry but let`s face it you and me got a laugh out of it and that`s nothing bad with that.

Anyway congrats to Stephanie for her Grammy.


You are familiar with the "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" theory?

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2023 - 12:45 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Nice story. Just about every composer had a mentor or someone already established that gave them a lift up. Talent helps but same as in any field, who you meet along the way and how you bond with them often makes you collect 200 quid and go straight past jail. Lol.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2023 - 12:56 AM   
 By:   Tobias   (Member)

Apparently I had not awaken up enough this morning when I read the topic headline because I initially thought that Hans, Harry and Stephanie was sccoring a new film by the name of 6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon. Sorry but let`s face it you and me got a laugh out of it and that`s nothing bad with that.

Anyway congrats to Stephanie for her Grammy.


You are familiar with the "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" theory?


Yes I am but I don`t know about you but some people might not be thinking clear in the morning when they just woke up.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2023 - 1:01 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Yes I am but I don`t know about you but some people might not be thinking clear in the morning when they just woke up.

Absolutely, you just phrased it in a way that I wasn't sure if you were familiar with the theory.

It's a good topic to have. But I would suggest it's more fun to apply it to ourselves than to random connections in showbiz (interesting as they might be sometimes).

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2023 - 1:22 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I have a Bacon number of 2.

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2023 - 4:32 AM   
 By:   Elgar   (Member)

I have a Bacon number of 2.

Does me replying to this give me a Bacon number of 3, or do we have to have actually met?

Congrats to Stephanie! Also that was an interesting story, jgb

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2023 - 5:17 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I have a Bacon number of 2.


Pfft… I eat Bacon for breakfast!

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2023 - 6:49 AM   
 By:   PollyAnna   (Member)

I have a Bacon number of 2.

Close, mine's 3!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2023 - 8:22 AM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

I had a very nice chat with Kevin Bacon back when he racked up his very first New York City stage credit in a revival of the play "Glad Tidings" at the Equity Library Theater on Broadway on the Upper West Side in 1977. My best friend was box office manager, and I was able to attend the opening night party which was a very very small gathering backstage. Mr. Bacon's career was just getting started. He was in a soap opera at the time, and I believe "Animal House" hadn't even opened. He was super charming, very young, and answered my questions about the grind of a soap opera honestly and was joined in that discussion by another actor in a soap (I hadn't yet gotten my first NYC job so I was watching more daytime TV than was healthy at the time and I actually was aware of Mr. Bacon's plotline in the soap). Does that give me a Bacon of 1 or...

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2023 - 12:51 PM   
 By:   PollyAnna   (Member)

I had a very nice chat with Kevin Bacon back when he racked up his very first New York City stage credit in a revival of the play "Glad Tidings" at the Equity Library Theater on Broadway on the Upper West Side in 1977. My best friend was box office manager, and I was able to attend the opening night party which was a very very small gathering backstage. Mr. Bacon's career was just getting started. He was in a soap opera at the time, and I believe "Animal House" hadn't even opened. He was super charming, very young, and answered my questions about the grind of a soap opera honestly and was joined in that discussion by another actor in a soap (I hadn't yet gotten my first NYC job so I was watching more daytime TV than was healthy at the time and I actually was aware of Mr. Bacon's plotline in the soap). Does that give me a Bacon of 1 or...


Yes it does John, can't get better than that!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2023 - 12:22 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Obviously can't beat John McMasters, but I think I also have a Bacon of 2. Providing he has met some of the composers who's scored some of his own movies. So my connection would then be either James Newton Howard, James Horner, David Newman, Danny Elfman, Hilmar Örn Hilmarsson, Hans Zimmer, Robert Folk (sorta) or Christophe Beck. I know it's not customary for actors to meet the composers of a movie the way directors do, but hopefully he's met some of the aforementioned.

Could be some other crew member in any of his films that I've met, and that he is likely also to have met, but that would need serious research.

 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2023 - 1:45 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I have a Bacon number of 2.


Pfft… I eat Bacon for breakfast!


I just wanted to specifically point out that I ignore that.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2023 - 8:45 AM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

Thor, you met me at the New York City get together, so you definitely have a Bacon 2 (as do the others who were there). Yay! --John

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2023 - 9:42 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I have a Bacon number of 2.


Pfft… I eat Bacon for breakfast!


I just wanted to specifically point out that I ignore that.



Being ignored by you is better than having my every word hung on by a whole gaggle of others big grin

(Not that it happens.)

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2023 - 10:23 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Thor, you met me at the New York City get together, so you definitely have a Bacon 2 (as do the others who were there). Yay! --John

Ah yes, that's true! No need to go via the composers, then.

 
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