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...taken as a whole, I personally don’t think Blade runner even scrapes the top 300. Leaving aside the absolutely awesome look of the film and the innovative score, the script is not great, the acting is poor (apart from Hauer) and the editing is designed to highlight the visuals rather than advance the story.
Well said.
Fortunately a lot of people disagree with you, and the above.
Bladerunner consistently ranks as one of the most important and influential films ever made.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner#Cultural_impact
Personally, I would put BLADE RUNNER in the top dozen movies I've ever seen, it is perhaps my favorite movie of all time. (There isn't of course just "one" favorite, but Blade Runner is definitely one of them.)
I think the latest "Sight and Sound "Greatest" Poll" is great, lots of interesting and unusual choices. I do find such lists always quite interesting. You scroll along, nod here and there, thing "yeah, great they included that one" or "boy, why did they include this overrated turkey". Sure, I keep contrasting it with my own preferences, so some of the choices would have been on my list, others wouldn't have been. Interesting that Jeanne Dielman, 23 Quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles is now the "greatest film of all time" according to the poll, before CITIZEN KANE or VERTIGO, the main difference that I knew these latter two films, but I have never seen this year's "number 1".
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Sorry, still don't think much of Blade Runner. Badly paced, badly acted. Just not a good story.
Alien is leagues better. Guess we all can't agree on everything all the time.
The same could be said of a lot of detective noir from the old days. LOL
But we good, Boo. 
Sometimes respect is as important as agreement.
Yeah, it is fine, I think some of the flack with BR it is very intentionally a genre pulp fiction piece, it is very futuristic, but also fully saturated with the tropes of filmnoir detective pictures of old, meaning it is somewhat oblique, moody, slow. Some of them are pretty zippy, but a lot are pretty slow moving set pieces, incredibly effective though. Personally I find Casablanca a piece of brick, but it is a classic. I would also say, regarding BR, 2001, Lawrence of Arabia, Solaris, well, LOTS of great films, they are quite often somewhat frustrating, not entirely spoon feeding the audience, somewhat challenging the expectations, sometimes offending.
I recall when by older brother first let me watch BR on tape, I felt like it rewired my brain, the film experience was that different, and it still is. I have seen it probably dozens of times now, and I love it each time, and appreciate it more each time. It is honed to perfection and a film that surpasses what almost all film directors can ever reach.
@ October, I oddly like it both ways, voiceover and without, I know lots of people despise that VO, but it still works for me.
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Interesting that Jeanne Dielman, 23 Quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles is now the "greatest film of all time" according to the poll, before CITIZEN KANE or VERTIGO, the main difference that I knew these latter two films, but I have never seen this year's "number 1".
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Well it is until the next poll in ten years time. I wouldn't expect it to be anywhere near #1 on the next list.
How did that film jump up 35 spots from the 2012 poll (from #36 to #1)?
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Interesting that Jeanne Dielman, 23 Quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles is now the "greatest film of all time" according to the poll, before CITIZEN KANE or VERTIGO, the main difference that I knew these latter two films, but I have never seen this year's "number 1".
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Well it is until the next poll in ten years time. I wouldn't expect it to be anywhere near #1 on the next list.
How did that film jump up 35 spots from the 2012 poll (from #36 to #1)?
There's certainly been some politicking:
https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2022/12/ehxk2vwtgo2l0xwtdrjvbpoxgijlck
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Dec 5, 2022 - 8:32 PM
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How did that film jump up 35 spots from the 2012 poll (from #36 to #1)?
More people have now come to watch it. But also it is indicative of the current era. Nearly every decade when this list releases you can tie straight lines to cultural signifiers which lead to the types of movies chosen as the #1 best (Bicycle Thieves is one of the great works of Marxist leanings). The truth of the matter is Bicycle Thieves was never the best film of all time. Citizen Kane was never the best film of all time. Neither was Vertigo. And neither will Jeanne Dielman, 23 Commerce Quay, 1080 Brussels. This lists "lives" or breathes again every decade. It is not an absolute truth. Just another list. The better lists are always the director's lists. They are compiled by the people who breathe the most life into that industry. And, yes, Bicycle Thieves, Citizen Kane, Vertigo, and Jeanne Dielman, 23 Commerce Quay, 1080 Brussels are on most of those. So it is safe to say that those films and many others are among the favorite films of many intelligent and hard working people.
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Interesting that Jeanne Dielman, 23 Quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles is now the "greatest film of all time" according to the poll, before CITIZEN KANE or VERTIGO, the main difference that I knew these latter two films, but I have never seen this year's "number 1".
Was there ever a time where you had never seen Citizen Kane or Vertigo? I'm not sure what is so interesting about you just having not seen a movie.
Sure there was a time that I have never seen VERTIGO or CITIZEN KANE, but that time has long passed. I've seen VERTIGO long before it made "number 1". (Can't say that of CITIZEN KANE, since that always seemed to have been #1 even when I was a kid.) What is interesting (to me, not necessarily to you) is that these "best films" usually have a long standing reputation and worked up their rank. Jeanne Dielman, 23 Quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles catapulted itself to the front seat by jumping up huge leaps. So it's certainly interesting to not just take a look at the film itself but also at the what else has changed.
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