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 Posted:   Oct 30, 2022 - 11:59 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Surprised we don't have a thread for this already. The event is knocking on the door so we may as well start one!

For the group stages, there are four games a day. Yes, you read that right - four games. Probably to get the tournament over and done with so everyone can go back to playing in their leagues!

The first game is Qatar v Equador on November 21st - I'm sure we'll all be on tenterhooks for that one. roll eyes England's first game - against Iran - is on Day 2.

Here are the groups, and the match schedule.

32 teams in eight groups of four:

Group A: Qatar, Ecuador, Senegal, Netherlands
Group B: England, Iran, USA, Wales
Group C: Argentina, Saudi Arabia, Mexico, Poland
Group D: France, Australia, Denmark, Tunisia
Group E: Spain, Costa Rica, Germany, Japan
Group F: Belgium, Canada, Morocco, Croatia
Group G: Brazil, Serbia, Switzerland, Cameroon
Group H: Portugal, Ghana, Uruguay, South Korea

Group stage - all kick-off times in UK

Sunday November 20

Group A: Qatar vs Ecuador (Al Bayt Stadium, Al Khor; kick-off 7pm)

Monday November 21

Group B: England vs Iran (Khalifa International Stadium, Al Rayyan; kick-off 1pm)
Group A: Senegal vs Netherlands (Al Thumama Stadium, Al Khor; kick-off 4pm)
Group B: USA vs Wales (Ahmed bin Ali Stadium, Al Rayyan; kick-off 7pm)

Tuesday November 22

Group C: Argentina vs Saudi Arabia (Lusail Iconic Stadium, Lusail; kick-off 10am)
Group D: Denmark vs Tunisia (Education City Stadium, Al Rayyan; kick-off 1pm)
Group C: Mexico vs Poland (Stadium 974, Doha; kick-off 4pm)
Group D: France vs Australia (Al Janoub Stadium, Al Wakrah; kick-off 7pm)

Wednesday November 23

Group F: Morocco vs Croatia (Al Bayt Stadium, Al Khor; kick-off 10am)
Group E: Germany vs Japan (Khalifa International Stadium, Al Rayyan; kick-off 1pm)
Group E: Spain vs Costa Rica (Al Thumama Stadium, Al Khor; kick-off 4pm)
Group F: Belgium vs Canada (Ahmed bin Ali Stadium, Al Rayyan; kick-off 7pm)

Thursday November 24

Group G: Switzerland vs Cameroon (Al Janoub Stadium, Al Wakrah; kick-off 10am)
Group H: Uruguay vs South Korea (Education City Stadium, Al Rayyan; kick-off 1pm)
Group H: Portugal vs Ghana (Stadium 974, Doha; kick-off 4pm)
Group G: Brazil vs Serbia (Lusail Iconic Stadium, Lusail; kick-off 7pm)

Friday November 25

Group B: Wales vs Iran (Ahmed bin Ali Stadium, Al Rayyan; kick-off 10am)
Group A: Qatar vs Senegal (Al Thumama Stadium, Al Khor; kick-off 1pm)
Group A: Netherlands vs Ecuador (Khalifa International Stadium, Al Rayyan; kick-off 4pm)
Group B: England vs USA (Al Bayt Stadium, Al Khor; kick-off 7pm)

Saturday November 26

Group C: Tunisia vs Australia (Al Janoub Stadium, Al Wakrah; kick-off 10am)
Group C: Poland vs Saudi Arabia (Education City Stadium, Al Rayyan; kick-off 1pm)
Group D: France vs Denmark (Stadium 974, Doha; kick-off 4pm)
Group C: Argentina vs Mexico (Lusail Iconic Stadium, Lusail; kick-off 7pm)

Sunday November 27

Group E: Japan vs Costa Rica (Ahmed bin Ali Stadium, Al Rayyan; kick-off 10am)
Group F: Belgium vs Morocco (Al Thumama Stadium, Al Khor; kick-off 1pm)
Group F: Croatia vs Canada (Khalifa International Stadium, Al Rayyan; kick-off 4pm)
Group E: Spain vs Germany (Al Bayt Stadium, Al Khor; kick-off 7pm)

Monday November 28

Group G: Cameroon vs Serbia (Al Janoub Stadium, Al Wakrah; kick-off 10am)
Group G: South Korea vs Ghana (Education City Stadium, Al Rayyan; kick-off 1pm)
Group H: Brazil vs Switzerland (Stadium 974, Doha; kick-off 4pm)
Group H: Portugal vs Uruguay (Lusail Iconic Stadium, Lusail; kick-off 7pm)

Tuesday November 29

Group A: Netherlands vs Qatar (Al Bayt Stadium, Al Khor; kick-off 3pm)
Group A: Ecuador vs Senegal (Khalifa International Stadium, Al Rayyan; kick-off 3pm)
Group B: Wales vs England (Ahmed bin Ali Stadium, Al Rayyan; kick-off 7pm)
Group B: Iran vs USA (Al Thumama Stadium, Al Khor; kick-off 7pm)

Wednesday November 30

Group D: Australia vs Denmark (Al Janoub Stadium, Al Wakrah; kick-off 3pm)
Group D: Tunisia vs France (Education City Stadium, Al Rayyan; kick-off 3pm)
Group C: Poland vs Argentina (Stadium 974, Doha; kick-off 7pm)
Group C: Saudi Arabia vs Mexico (Lusail Iconic Stadium, Lusail; kick-off 7pm)

Thursday December 1

Group F: Croatia vs Belgium (Ahmed bin Ali Stadium, Al Rayyan; kick-off 3pm)
Group F: Canada vs Morocco (Al Thumama Stadium, Al Khor; kick-off 3pm)
Group E: Costa Rica vs Germany (Al Bayt Stadium, Al Khor; kick-off 7pm)
Group E: Japan vs Spain (Khalifa International Stadium, Al Rayyan; kick-off 7pm)

Friday, December 2

Group G: South Korea vs Portugal (Education City Stadium, Al Rayyan; kick-off 3pm)
Group G: Ghana vs Uruguay (Al Janoub Stadium, Al Wakrah; kick-off 3pm)
Group H: Serbia vs Switzerland (Stadium 974, Doha; kick-off 7pm)
Group H: Cameroon vs Brazil (Lusail Iconic Stadium, Lusail; kick-off 7pm)


Round of 16

Saturday December 3
49 - Winners of Group A vs Runners-up of Group B (Khalifa International Stadium, Al Rayyan; kick-off 3pm)
50 - Winners of Group C vs Runners-up of Group D (Ahmed bin Ali Stadium, Al Rayyan; kick-off 7pm)

Sunday December 4
52 - Winners of Group D vs Runners-up of Group C (Al Thumama Stadium, Doha; kick-off 3pm)
51 - Winners of Group B vs Runners-up of Group A (Al Bayt Stadium, Al Khor; kick-off 7pm)

Monday December 5
53 - Winners of Group E vs Runners-up of Group F (Al Janoub Stadium, Al Wakrah; kick-off 3pm)
54 - Winners of Group G vs Runners-up of Group H (Stadium 974, Doha; kick-off 7pm)

Tuesday December 6
55 - Winners of Group F vs Runners-up of Group E (Education City Stadium, Al Rayyan; kick-off 3pm)
56 - Winners of Group H vs Runners-up of Group G (Lusail Iconic Stadium, Lusail; kick-off 7pm)


Quarter-finals

Friday December 9
58 - Winners of 53 vs Winners of 54 (Education City Stadium, Al Rayyan; kick-off 3pm)
57 - Winners of 49 vs Winners of 50 (Lusail Iconic Stadium, Lusail; 7pm)

Saturday December 10
60 - Winners of 55 vs Winners of 56 (Al Thumama Stadium, Doha; kick-off 3pm)
59 - Winners of 51 vs Winners of 52 (Al Bayt Stadium, Al Khor; kick-off 7pm)


Semi-finals

Tuesday December 13
61 - Winners of 57 vs Winners of 58 (Lusail Iconic Stadium, Lusail; kick-off 7pm)

Wednesday December 14
62 - Winners of 59 vs Winners of 60 (Al Bayt Stadium, Al Khor; kick-off 7pm)

Saturday December 17
63 - Third place play-off (Khalifa International Stadium, Al Rayyan; kick-off 3pm)


Final

Sunday December 18
64 - The World Cup final (Lusail Iconic Stadium, Lusail; kick-off 3pm)

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2022 - 12:13 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Yes, we need a thread, nice work - but maybe the lack of one at this point was indicative of the excitement this particular World Cup is generating. Between the probably fraudulent award ceremony and the hasty and murderous infrastructure, I find it difficult to summon much enthusiasm.

At least now that Leeds are back in the big time for the first WC since 2002 (when we had four players in the England squad) there’s some local interest…. Although not with England.

USA!
USA!

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2022 - 12:43 PM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Yes, we need a thread, nice work - but maybe the lack of one at this point was indicative of the excitement this particular World Cup is generating.

I'd agree with you there. The UK media isn't talking about it at all.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2022 - 2:30 PM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

I don't have much interest in it for a variety of reasons (top of which is my complete ambivalence towards International football) but I'm warming to it more lately for the possibility of it giving my team a collective 6 week head shake which might fix their Jeckyl & Hyde performances so far this season (like how da fuck do they beat Man City, West Ham and Ajax away but lose to the bottom two teams in the league!!!).
I don't think we have that many players joining up with their squads, due to them either being injured (Jota)..not qualified (Salah)..or just shit at the moment (take your pick).

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2022 - 2:44 PM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Should Sterling and Henderson go? Should Harry Maguire?

On current form I'd say not. Southgate has spoken of not picking players who aren't performing well, or playing for their clubs.

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2022 - 3:10 PM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

Surprised they aint kicked out iran yet.
Maybe they will drone on in the post-match press conference. Lol

I would imagine that the heat is gonna make the matches like that advert for walking football. Ha ha

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2022 - 3:19 PM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Southgate is full of shit if he's saying that, cos he had those Manc mooks playing in the last few Intl games when they couldn't get near their own teams' first 11.

I think the bigger question is which vegetable will he be likened to by the English press when they return home in abject failure, upon meeting the first decent team in the tournament.

 
 Posted:   Oct 30, 2022 - 11:43 PM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

Kev is right. Truth is, for a while there, he got them playing without fear, and the football flourished. Finalists!

But all those new players are now playing with exactly the same fear (of making an error and being slaughtered or losing their place) and hesitancy and caution and reserving energy (because prem is more important) as all the previous teams did, right back as far as the last time we played with shackles off, 96.

So we are back to little expectation and cheering on our prem teams foreign players.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2022 - 1:37 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

(like how da fuck do they beat Man City, West Ham and Ajax away but lose to the bottom two teams in the league!!!).


If that’s how Klippety was thinking, no wonder we took the points. Seems our thrashing of Chelsea and fantastic performance (but baffling loss) against VARsenal didn’t set any alarm bells ringing. Maybe he’s just a bit stale after five years, plus a few players getting past their best. Did Leeds really collectively run 11 kilometres further than Liverpool? You can’t put all of that down to the possession stats. Plus VvD has rarely been as good as his reputation. Lost Rodrigo for the misplaced back pass, stood off Cry Summerville for the winner.

Stevie G’s available smile

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2022 - 1:44 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Principally, I want to boycott the whole event due to the human rights concerns, but I don't think I can resist the temptation when it eventually begins. To be fair, there will be some limitations in place nonetheless. From tomorrow, I lose all my TV channels (the apartment building owners want to save money by deleting the TV package that was included in the rent, and I cannot afford my own subscription), so I will not be able to watch those matches that air on the commercial TV2 channel. I will, however, be able to watch those on NRK (public broadcaster) by hooking up my PC to my TV and watching through the free webplayer.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2022 - 5:29 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

I'd hold off on the crowing, TG.
Beating Liverpool at the moment in the Prem - with our soft underbelly - isn't such a scalp right now.
Forest got pummelled 5-0 a week after their 3 points off us.
And lest we forget...the season hasn't even got past 1/3 stage yet!!
I'm not making any bold predictions, but we were about 14 points behind Man City last season at Christmas and ran them so close on final day.
Plus, if Divok Origi had been playing instead of Darwin Nunez, those chances would have been buried and game over by the 1hr mark.

smile

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2022 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Definitely out of the World Cup:

Kalvin Phillips, Kyle Walker, N'Golo Kante, Paul Pogba, Georginio Wijnaldum, Diogo Jota

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2022 - 12:17 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I'd hold off on the crowing, TG.
Beating Liverpool at the moment in the Prem - with our soft underbelly - isn't such a scalp right now.
Forest got pummelled 5-0 a week after their 3 points off us.
And lest we forget...the season hasn't even got past 1/3 stage yet!!
I'm not making any bold predictions, but we were about 14 points behind Man City last season at Christmas and ran them so close on final day.
Plus, if Divok Origi had been playing instead of Darwin Nunez, those chances would have been buried and game over by the 1hr mark.

smile



I’m not crowing, Kev, and even if I were we don’t often get the chance so I think I’d forgive myself! Don’t get me wrong, I don’t wish Liverpool ill - not while Man U and Everton still exist…

I could have wished for some acknowledgment from your manager that there was another team on the pitch on Saturday evening, though.

(What happened to Origi?)

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2022 - 1:00 PM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

No worries smile

Liverpool let Divok go on a free, at the same time Mane wanted out...and left.
Bringing in a raw, untested newbie who can't speak a word of English hasn't quite had the desired, perfect replacement effect.
And injuries to the likes of Jota and Diaz has compounded things.
We haven't really had to worry about chinks in our defence when our attack has been so busy worrying the oppo.
But I'm quite confident we will regroup and be there or thereabouts come seasons end.
Good luck with your season...apart from The Revenge At Elland Road (mwuuuhaaahaaahaaaa) wink

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2022 - 1:03 PM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

No worries smile

Liverpool let Divok go on a free, at the same time Mane wanted out...and left.
Bringing in a raw, untested newbie who can't speak a word of English hasn't quite had the desired, perfect replacement effect.
And injuries to the likes of Jota and Diaz has compounded things.
We haven't really had to worry about chinks in our defence when our attack has been busy worrying the oppo.
But I'm quite confident we will regroup and be there or thereabouts come seasons end.
Good luck with your season...apart from The Revenge At Elland Road (mwuuuhaaahaaahaaaa) wink


I reckon we'll see a different Liverpool after the break.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 2, 2022 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Principally, I want to boycott the whole event due to the human rights concerns, but I don't think I can resist the temptation when it eventually begins.

I agree with Thor that human rights are a legitimate concern. I'm especially concerned about any players or visitors who are gay and risk being arrested in Qatar.

 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2022 - 7:48 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Firmino gets to put his feet up for a month, Kev!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2022 - 8:30 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Yeah, more good news.
Every time I read about another LFC player not making their World Cup squad, it makes me happy.
Firmino is a strange one...he's been really good for us this season...one of our best performers.
At this rate, there'll only be Van Dyke and Henderson not getting a 6 week jollie.

smile

 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2022 - 6:38 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

Goalkeepers: Jordan Pickford (Everton), Nick Pope (Newcastle), Aaron Ramsdale (Arsenal)

Defenders: Harry Maguire, Luke Shaw (both Manchester United), Eric Dier (Tottenham), John Stones, Kyle Walker (both Manchester City), Kieran Trippier (Newcastle), Conor Coady (Everton), Ben White (Arsenal), Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool)

Midfielders: Jude Bellingham (Borussia Dortmund), Mason Mount, Conor Gallagher (both Chelsea), Declan Rice (West Ham), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Kalvin Phillips (Manchester City)

Forwards: James Maddison (Leicester), Phil Foden, Jack Grealish (both Manchester City), Harry Kane (Tottenham), Bukayo Saka (Arsenal), Raheem Sterling (Chelsea), Callum Wilson (Newcastle), Marcus Rashford (Manchester United)

Maddinson gets in. People talking about Toney and Roma striker Tammy Abrahams both not getting in.

 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2022 - 7:33 AM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

Well i can tell you, whoever they leave out, you get whingeing.
Personally im pleased bowen didnt make it because hes been mostly shit for a year. Ditto antonio.
But madison has been superb and earned his squad place. Somehow i dont think they will be away long.

 
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