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 Posted:   Aug 15, 2022 - 4:19 AM   
 By:   Cameron007   (Member)

Sorry but what means "IIRC"?
I see this all over the board for a while.
I already know "IMHO" but "IIRC" I don't know what it means.


They stand for "in my humble opinion" and "if I remember correctly".

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2022 - 4:43 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Sorry but what means "IIRC"?
I see this all over the board for a while.
I already know "IMHO" but "IIRC" I don't know what it means.


They stand for "in my humble opinion" and "if I remember correctly".


Yes. As being someone guilty of using it in this thread, IIRC is just shorthand for "if I remember correctly".

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2022 - 4:45 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I can't believe no one's mentioned Indiana Jones yet. IIRC, only Raiders was recorded with the LSO.

That's true, but John Williams himself continued to record with the LSO, just not for the Indiana Jones movies.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2022 - 4:58 AM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

I can't believe no one's mentioned Indiana Jones yet. IIRC, only Raiders was recorded with the LSO.

I have always wanted to know why the other scores weren’t recorded in London after such a brilliant recording & performance for Raiders.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2022 - 5:24 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

My question is why people are so obsessed with the LSO as if it's the only alternative to Hollywood.

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2022 - 5:30 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

I can't believe no one's mentioned Indiana Jones yet. IIRC, only Raiders was recorded with the LSO.

I have always wanted to know why the other scores weren’t recorded in London after such a brilliant recording & performance for Raiders.


If I’m not mistaken, it was the only score recorded in London for a Spielberg film. Perhaps the director didn’t want to travel.

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2022 - 5:38 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

My question is why people are so obsessed with the LSO as if it's the only alternative to Hollywood.

I think it is just because the London Symphony Orchestra is one of the world-renowned major classical music orchestras that also regularly recorded film scores, that's probably just it.

As far as only RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK being performed with the London Symphony Orchestra and the following movies being with the Hollywood Studio Orchestra, I can only speculate and have no idea. Presumably, just organisational things. I would say that the Hollywood Studio Musicians are among the best orchestral performers in the world, and INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM is spectacular orchestral performance and recording, so recording it in L.A. was just as good.

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2022 - 6:29 AM   
 By:   Undecided Zebra   (Member)

My question is why people are so obsessed with the LSO as if it's the only alternative to Hollywood.

Just for some clarification re National Philharmonic Orchestra, I spent some time speaking with Sidney Sax in 1984 ,He spoke very warmly of Jerry Goldsmith and in particular stressed whenether Goldsmith was recording he would pull out all stops to get his desired musicians particularly since 1979 Jerry Goldsmith had a particular likening for the L.SO brass led by one of his favoured trumpet players Maurice Murphy and the woodwind section from the L.S.O. Sidney Sax always felt Goldsmith was at his most relaxed conducting the National Philharmonic and the orchestra brought out the best of him and his orchestration.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2022 - 12:16 PM   
 By:   The Shadow   (Member)

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 Posted:   Aug 15, 2022 - 1:08 PM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)

My question is why people are so obsessed with the LSO as if it's the only alternative to Hollywood.


Cuz they are Good! And when Williams hooks up, even better!



 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2022 - 1:32 PM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)

I can't believe no one's mentioned Indiana Jones yet. IIRC, only Raiders was recorded with the LSO.

I have always wanted to know why the other scores weren’t recorded in London after such a brilliant recording & performance for Raiders.


If I’m not mistaken, it was the only score recorded in London for a Spielberg film. Perhaps the director didn’t want to travel.


It had to do with, Cost, Time Schedule.

But It is lots easier for a composer like John Williams to compose and conduct here in LA and use LA Players, and if Williams needs to go back and rewrite a cue, or there is an edit change…it would easier to do that here. Remember George Lucas gave John Williams no time to rewrite all the massive edit changes he did to Phantom Menace.

John Williams said in the Rutter interview that on Tuesday June 28th 2022…That he would start recording the 5th Indiana Jones Film. Just like with the Last Three Star Wars Films, They are giving John Williams plenty of time and space to compose and record his scores!

When FSM Girls got upset that John Williams name had not been attach to Spielberg’s The Fabelmans, on IMDB, These Girls here we’re getting their panties all bunched up.. in the meantime…John Williams had already Composed and Conducted the Original Score, by the time his name had been attached..on IMDB …LOL.

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2022 - 2:38 PM   
 By:   johnonymous86   (Member)

My question is why people are so obsessed with the LSO as if it's the only alternative to Hollywood.

I personaly am not so obsessed by the LSO than I am by ABBEY ROAD Studio One which is even more incomparable as a recording studio with its unique room sound than the LSO is as a fantastic orchestra which it is undeniably.

There are great orchestras over the world other than the LSO, but there is one and only ABBEY ROAD.

When I listen to NIGHT CROSSING by the NPO or RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK by the LSO, what I hear most is not so much the orchestra (half of the musicians of both may be the same btw) but the room sound of the Studio One which is unique. But I can't explain how and why.


I believe Raiders was recorded at Anvil.

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2022 - 12:19 AM   
 By:   Undecided Zebra   (Member)

My question is why people are so obsessed with the LSO as if it's the only alternative to Hollywood.

I personaly am not so obsessed by the LSO than I am by ABBEY ROAD Studio One which is even more incomparable as a recording studio with its unique room sound than the LSO is as a fantastic orchestra which it is undeniably.

There are great orchestras over the world other than the LSO, but there is one and only ABBEY ROAD.

When I listen to NIGHT CROSSING by the NPO or RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK by the LSO, what I hear most is not so much the orchestra (half of the musicians of both may be the same btw) but the room sound of the Studio One which is unique. But I can't explain how and why.


I believe Raiders was recorded at Anvil.


Star wars and Empire were recorded at Anvil studios which closed in 1980,Raiders, Return of jedi were recorded at Abbey Road

Good article re recording engineer Eric Tomlinson and Star Wars recording Abbey Road.

https://www.malonedigital.com/starwars.pdf

https://www.malonedigital.com/tomlinson.pdf

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2022 - 7:12 AM   
 By:   johnonymous86   (Member)

My question is why people are so obsessed with the LSO as if it's the only alternative to Hollywood.

I personaly am not so obsessed by the LSO than I am by ABBEY ROAD Studio One which is even more incomparable as a recording studio with its unique room sound than the LSO is as a fantastic orchestra which it is undeniably.

There are great orchestras over the world other than the LSO, but there is one and only ABBEY ROAD.

When I listen to NIGHT CROSSING by the NPO or RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK by the LSO, what I hear most is not so much the orchestra (half of the musicians of both may be the same btw) but the room sound of the Studio One which is unique. But I can't explain how and why.


I believe Raiders was recorded at Anvil.


Star wars and Empire were recorded at Anvil studios which closed in 1980,Raiders, Return of jedi were recorded at Abbey Road

Good article re recording engineer Eric Tomlinson and Star Wars recording Abbey Road.

https://www.malonedigital.com/starwars.pdf

https://www.malonedigital.com/tomlinson.pdf


I seem to recall hearing that EMPIRE was recorded at both Abbey Road and Anvil, and the same was true of RAIDERS. Some of the RAIDERS notes that I find indicate Anvil as well as Abbey Road. Unfortunately I don't have access to the recordings at the moment so I'm just going off what I find online.

The Library of Congress lists just Anvil for RAIDERS while the Discogs entries for the two most recent RAIDERS releases (DCC/Silva and Concord) indicate both Abbey Road and Anvil. If the score was recorded in different rooms over the course of the sessions, it's certainly not noticeable to my old ears. The plot thickens...

 
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