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 Posted:   Jun 21, 2022 - 5:44 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

Eleven scores in three different decades.

Classic arrangement, at the very least, of the theme,

Musically defined a genre.

Depending on your preferences, at least five timeless songs: Goldfinger, Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, You Only Live Twice, We Have All the Time in the World, and Diamonds Are Forever. And a few others of note.

Scored for FOUR different Bonds, adapting to and updating for each while maintaining the style he created.

ZERO nominations.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2022 - 6:15 PM   
 By:   Night   (Member)

Honorary Oscars are only given out to still living people if i'm not mistaken.

 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2022 - 7:05 PM   
 By:   Viscount Bark   (Member)

We all need to quite caring about the Oscars.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2022 - 7:35 PM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)

Yeah I agree with this…

John Barry got no nomination for James Bond.

OHMSS and We Have All The Time in The World …Should of been nominated.

Goldfinger also should of been nominated for best song

But John Barry was winning Oscars for Born Free Score and Song, Lion in Winter, Out of Africa, Dances With Wolves.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2022 - 8:28 PM   
 By:   Soundtrack Fanatic   (Member)

Yes, all 11 of John Barry's Bond scores were absolutely and unbelievably overlooked for Oscar consideration in their time.

I love them all, but In particular:

GOLDFINGER
THUNDERBALL
YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE
ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER

These are not only great Bond scores, but also some of the greatest film scores (and songs) ever written... period!

John Barry was one of the Top 10 Greatest Film Composers of All Time, and I'm thrilled that he won so many Oscars during his amazing career...

...But no Bond nominations or wins? That is an out-and-out CRIME.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2022 - 1:24 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Honorary Oscars are only given out to still living people if i'm not mistaken.
Plus he won five competitive Oscars... it's like saying Elmer Bernstein should get an honorary Oscar for his work in Westerns.

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2022 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

It's crazy how Barry's Bond music was ignored at the Oscars, but given he won five Oscars in the end I don't think anybody's going to cry for him over that one.

I mean, sure, the songs of Goldfinger, You Only Live Twice, We Have All The Time In The World and Diamonds Are Forever at least should have been nominated, and the scores for Goldfinger and OHMSS at least should have been nominated.

You can argue for not nominating the others because you can argue they were more derivative, but those two scores were both ground breakers.

But, you know what — that word should is just the way we argue with reality.

The five he did win will be reward enough.

I was just disappointed they didn't have a card on the end credits of Skyfall for him, since he'd just died at that point and it was the Bond 50th anniversary film.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2022 - 1:50 PM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

I've no real interest in the Oscars ... far too much money-manipulation to be valid. But re: your comment, Stephen:

I was just disappointed they didn't have a card on the end credits of Skyfall for him, since he'd just died at that point and it was the Bond 50th anniversary film. ... I hadn't thought of that before.

And I'm glad that they didn't associate his name with that travesty of a Bond film ... it didn't even have a JB007 score, other than using his James Bond Theme. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2022 - 1:56 PM   
 By:   knisper.shayan   (Member)

morricone never got an nomination for any of his "spaghetti" westerns...think about this!

and even here, on this board, he still doesn't get the honor and appreciation he deserves!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2022 - 2:07 AM   
 By:   AndrewH   (Member)

never got an nomination for any of his "spaghetti" westerns...think about this!

A very good point.

The Oscars(TM) are shallower than my kids paddling pool, but I'm glad John Barry got his five awards. And awards don't pay the bills.

I think there was a bit of snobbery about the Bonds at the time. Marvin Hamlisch only received a nomination for The Spy Who Loved Me as he was flavour of the month but I don't think that there has yet been a proper release of the ACTUAL soundtrack for TSWLM.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2022 - 2:29 AM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)

never got an nomination for any of his "spaghetti" westerns...think about this!

A very good point.

The Oscars(TM) are shallower than my kids paddling pool, but I'm glad John Barry got his five awards. And awards don't pay the bills.

I think there was a bit of snobbery about the Bonds at the time. Marvin Hamlisch only received a nomination for The Spy Who Loved Me as he was flavour of the month but I don't think that there has yet been a proper release of the ACTUAL soundtrack for TSWLM.


Yes they do

You win awards, the price of gold goes up.

On that resume…it begins with..Oscar Winning Composer.

The composer is nominated by the Music Branch of the Academy.


 
 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2022 - 2:29 AM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)

never got an nomination for any of his "spaghetti" westerns...think about this!

A very good point.

The Oscars(TM) are shallower than my kids paddling pool, but I'm glad John Barry got his five awards. And awards don't pay the bills.

I think there was a bit of snobbery about the Bonds at the time. Marvin Hamlisch only received a nomination for The Spy Who Loved Me as he was flavour of the month but I don't think that there has yet been a proper release of the ACTUAL soundtrack for TSWLM.


Yes they do

You win awards, the price of gold goes up.

On that resume…it begins with..Oscar Winning Composer.

The composer is nominated by the Music Branch of the Academy.


 
 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2022 - 5:17 AM   
 By:   DogsPart2   (Member)

Could not agree more with the OP.

He was solely responsible for creating the "spy" genre, IMHO.

I wonder, though, if Barry may have been prouder of this his other Oscars as they may have meant more to him being appreciated on their own merits and not part of the Bond "machine".

In any event he was and continues to be recognized as a genius; at least in THIS house.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2022 - 6:00 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

Awards are recognition for the music. Whether or not you get the awards, the music still stands. Still, the recognition is nice.

Putting this in a different light for, say, John Williams fans. What if JW scored the original Star Wars plus several more and never got a nomination, much less an Oscar, for this work and then after he stopped doing them several others stepped in, creating scores of varying quality in the musical framework he created, and got nominations and Oscars.

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2022 - 3:10 PM   
 By:   JohnnyG   (Member)

I guess in the case of GOLDFINGER - which is the most glaring omission in the first years of the franchise (and to a lesser extent THUNDERBALL's song) - it was probably snobbery. When YOLT, with its also very worthy song was released, it was 1967 and Barry had already won his first two Oscars. In 1969, when OHMSS was released, Barry was winning a third Oscar. Three wins out of three nominations. After that, the music branch of the Academy didn't give JB many opportunities to win another statuette - they nominated him again for MARY, QUEEN OF SCOTS (the year of DAF, the other glaring omission in the song category) but he had to wait until the mid-'80s to receive another nomination. Barry had a fantastic win to nom. ratio - an, I think, unprecedented 5 out of 7 - which always made me to believe he was more liked by the entire voting body of the Academy than by its music branch... (It's also the circumstances, of course - his other two Oscars came for hit films that swept the awards). His peers could have easily nominated him for WALKABOUT, MIDNIGHT COWBOY or later for FRANCES. But they didn't.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2022 - 8:25 PM   
 By:   nocturne_cvs   (Member)

[quote]I don't think that there has yet been a proper release of the ACTUAL soundtrack for TSWLM. [/quote]

Forgive the ignorance, but there' vinyl version of it available. Is it not the actual soundtrack?

 
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