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May 24, 2022 - 3:18 PM
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cody1949
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And no doubt ALL of those cost estimates would be higher today. Thanks for remembering that post, Stefan.
So nice to see people who , not through their fault , just rubbed me the wrong way. Yavar ,Moolik, Orbital , John Archibald ,etc.
We can all try to get each other's dreams come true. I will support your desire for all your Goldsmith dreams. We can come together. One hand washes the other.
Well, first things first, Cody... did you ultimately buy Black Patch/The Man?  And if so, did the album win you over despite your low expectations?
I was amused that higher up you suggested a Rozsa/Goldsmith pairing to increase Rozsa sales. I thought to myself, "okay, if you INSIST!"  But honestly I think Rozsa tends to sell well enough on his own (though it would no doubt be helpful to pair a well known Rozsa score with a less well known Rozsa score). Now a Goldsmith/Goldenberg pairing would be a nice way to try and get people into Billy Goldenberg...
Yavar
YES ,I DID ! I sent a message to Jeff Johnson that BLACK PATCH/ THE MAN played with more " life" than it had played in the films. I told Jeff to pass the message on to Doug , Roger and Yavar. Jeff should know who Cody1949 is . I kid you not.
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YES ,I DID ! I sent a message to Jeff Johnson that BLACK PATCH/ THE MAN played with more " life" than it had played in the films. I told Jeff to pass the message on to Doug , Roger and Yavar. Jeff should know who Cody1949 is . I kid you not.
Oh, Jeff may have passed the message along to Doug and Roger, but I didn't get anything (perhaps because I'm not an Intrada employee). I'm very glad to hear that you both picked up the album and enjoyed it. Did listening to the Production Report podcast (https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/9988703-production-report-black-patch-the-man-2021-intrada-recording) with samples of the new recording help win you over? I think I remember you saying you were going to give it a listen, but maybe I'm misremembering.
It is sometimes quite hard to judge the quality of a film score from listening to the film, due to low mixing, cues that are truncated or dialed out, or even just a poor original recording. I still love Black Patch IN the film, but I agree that William Stromberg and the RSNO *really* made it come alive in a special way. I hope that you now like it as much as you liked Face of a Fugitive (or hopefully better!) and no longer think of it as "underwhelming" or "Jerry's 'baby booties'"
If more labels will go the Kickstarter route , like Kritzerland is planning to do and Quartet has done in the past and hopefully may return to do in the future,we might find ourselves in the wonderful situation of having 4 or 5 releases per year. I am thinking positive. Why be a naysayer ?
I celebrate the new and improved Cody. When Intrada announced their Goldsmith Kickstarter, you were quite the frequent vocal naysayer at the time, which is why we got into an argument.
I agree there's much cause for positivity, after the Kickstarter success from Tadlow (King of Kings and Moonraker too, don't forget -- it was canceled after it reached its funding goal!) and Intrada (Dial M for Murder and the Goldsmith twofer).
Yavar
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I have several scores converted from vinyl to lossless digital. I actually kind of prefer them over their HD releases because I like the sound of the crackling from the vinyl. It makes them feel more... 'real', I guess? It's hard to explain.
Try a sentence with the words- weird, I, am- in it. 
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Maybe back when the FMS came out, someone was optimizing for ripping into iTunes? Because at the time iTunes had gaps between tracks, and those would have been far more glaring had consistent hiss been maintained. (I was so glad when iTunes fixed this.)
Yavar
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I sent a message to Jeff Johnson that BLACK PATCH/THE MAN played with more "life" than it had played in the films.
We can all try to get each other's dreams come true. I will support your desire for all your Goldsmith dreams. We can come together. One hand washes the other.
So Cody, since you've now warmed up to the idea of more new Goldsmith recordings, I wanted to be sure you heard this incredibly gorgeous early Goldsmith (composed in 1962 around the time of Lonely Are the Brave), with Leigh Phillips conducting his own reconstruction of "The Bar Mitzvah of Major Orlovsky":
https://fb.watch/dgZ7Z6wIBN/
It'll only take a minute of your time and I think you'll be amazed at how good it is considering how unknown it is. I think Jerry's former teacher Miklos Rozsa would have been very proud to hear this composition of his student. Of course the Kickstarter is over but it may whet your appetite for a (hopeful, if two more GE Theater scores can be recorded) CD edition in the future...
Yavar
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Glad you enjoyed it, Cody. I so hoped you would.
Yes, I know many people feel as you do that a CD is far preferable in terms of being willing to part with one's $$$. I'm sure that's a major reason why only 154 people supported this initial Kickstarter (but it was fortunately more than enough!) Luckily Leigh responded to my urging to have a CD as an option once enough minutes of music have been recorded to justify one (which should be the case after the very next campaign w/ stretch goal is achieved), and since he wrote about it in the completed Kickstarter he seems pretty committed to that path!
My primary argument to him was that the Venn diagram of people who prefer physical CDs over downloads and people interested in obscure Jerry Goldsmith TV work from the late 50s/early 60s probably includes a great deal of overlap.
Yavar
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Ecstatic to hear that; burying the hatchet sounds great.
And for the record I will enthusiastically give my financial support to *any* Miklos Rozsa or Hugo Friedhofer re-recording (but The Jungle Book and Joan of Arc, Intrada’s own two poll picks, are among the most exciting options out of their entire output).
Yavar
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