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 Posted:   Feb 17, 2025 - 12:45 AM   
 By:   moviescore   (Member)

Looking at the binding edge, the large letters spelling "JERRY" and "GOLDSMITH" shouldn't be spilling onto the cover, but confined to the edge, right?

My thoughts exactly. The spine titles are spilling right over the joints and onto the front and back covers. That surely can't be intentional so it's either a very, very bad printing attempt or that photo is a badly rendered mock-up and those aren't real books? (The latter seems unlikely but this entire fiasco is so deep into Twilight Zone territory that I don't think any revelation could shock me...)


For sure this can be intentional. It's probably a graphic design idea that they had. On the other hand, it seems the design (and format of the book?) has changed since the designer put up the front covers at https://www.enderlinedesign.com/work#/the-jerry-goldsmith-companion-volume-two/

mikael

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2025 - 1:11 AM   
 By:   ghost of 82   (Member)

The most concerning thing for me about this project - and just to be clear, I didn't buy this book, couldn't afford it - is that the whole reason the Kickstarter happened was because it likely wasn't deemed economically feasible to produce it through usual mainstream publishing. It's a niche subject with an increasingly niche audience. This book won't happen again, this is the last hurrah for a book like this in two volumes about the music of Jerry Goldsmith.

I find that sobering and sad and a little concerned for the multi-volume James Horner project (I think volume one is still due this year). Maybe twenty years ago this kind of thing would have been easier but hey, it's a changing world.

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2025 - 5:27 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I wouldn't worry.

This project was so over-funded, there is no sparsity argument against producing it. Taylor White should be able to afford to print deluxe editions and still have money left over.

The fear is whether there is any real focus on following through.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2025 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

If they're costing near $100k to print, is it safe to assume they will be full colour/glossy?

Not as per the original plan but In all of this long delay debacle they should come around to at least do it in full color.


It's probably the best make-good option available, and might actually mollify people, at least somewhat and maybe significantly. Imagine if the years later lookback is "There were some huge hitches, but they ultimately got it just right; it's a beautiful set, and I love looking through it," instead of "Fool me twice, shame on me" with pages and pages of black-and-white reminders of all of this current nonsense.

It's a good idea, Amer.

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2025 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

If they're costing near $100k to print, is it safe to assume they will be full colour/glossy?

Not as per the original plan but In all of this long delay debacle they should come around to at least do it in full color.


It's probably the best make-good option available, and might actually mollify people, at least somewhat and maybe significantly. Imagine if the years later lookback is "There were some huge hitches, but they ultimately got it just right; it's a beautiful set, and I love looking through it," instead of "Fool me twice, shame on me" with pages and pages of black-and-white reminders of all of this current nonsense.

It's a good idea, Amer.


Well, like we have been saying the last couple years, "we have to wait and see".

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2025 - 1:39 PM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

I have lost all interest in this, I am sorry to say. I have written off the money and will move on. If it lands in my mail box I will be delighted, but the whole thing as left me completely blasé about it.

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2025 - 11:55 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

If they're costing near $100k to print, is it safe to assume they will be full colour/glossy?

Not as per the original plan but In all of this long delay debacle they should come around to at least do it in full color.


It's probably the best make-good option available, and might actually mollify people, at least somewhat and maybe significantly. Imagine if the years later lookback is "There were some huge hitches, but they ultimately got it just right; it's a beautiful set, and I love looking through it," instead of "Fool me twice, shame on me" with pages and pages of black-and-white reminders of all of this current nonsense.

It's a good idea, Amer.


Lets hope for the best, David. Some what small steps in the right discussion so far. But a little shark in the tank can create the right jostle and momentum.

 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2025 - 5:42 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

I've known Jeff since the '90s when we had a great phone convo about Alex North's Dragonslayer (I was working on an article for FSM analyzing the score).

Somewhere along the line, with all the drama from CF Publishing and this KS, I forgot that. While I have never laid an iota of blame at Jeff's feet, I feel I should have probably just stayed quiet about all this stuff as I can imagine the negativity still impacts him.

So I'm respectfully tapping out here. I will leave it to the KS folks to sort out this last stage of the printing process and get to the finish line.




 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2025 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   lostinscores   (Member)



For sure this can be intentional. It's probably a graphic design idea that they had.

mikael


I was thinking the same, Mikael.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2025 - 12:54 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Hey DC, JB's rep is unimpeachable and that's something on which we can all agree. It's just an awkward situation what with him being paid while the ones doing the paying sit around forever wondering when/if their payoff is coming. Ugh. Nobody needs this.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2025 - 1:35 PM   
 By:   roy phillippe   (Member)

Hey DC, JB's rep is unimpeachable and that's something on which we can all agree. It's just an awkward situation what with him being paid while the ones doing the paying sit around forever wondering when/if their payoff is coming. Ugh. Nobody needs this.

Does the Goldsmith estate have anything to do with this?

 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2025 - 2:52 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Hey DC, JB's rep is unimpeachable and that's something on which we can all agree. It's just an awkward situation what with him being paid while the ones doing the paying sit around forever wondering when/if their payoff is coming. Ugh. Nobody needs this.

Does the Goldsmith estate have anything to do with this?




No.

 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2025 - 4:08 PM   
 By:   Guy   (Member)

You folks should count yourself lucky, I backed a reprint of "Ray Harryhausen - Master of the Majicks", luckily I have the first editions, but was after the extra info et al. All those peeps have been waiting since June 2014 !

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2025 - 6:56 AM   
 By:   NO NAME   (Member)

You folks should count yourself lucky, I backed a reprint of "Ray Harryhausen - Master of the Majicks", luckily I have the first editions, but was after the extra info et al. All those peeps have been waiting since June 2014 !

2015

 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2025 - 7:06 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I'm not interested in winning a competition for "Worst treated Kickstarter backer." smile I just want the books.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2025 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

I think we've all been quite patient and there's no reason to say, "Well, it could be worse (compared to this other project that's even more poorly run)!"

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2025 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   NO NAME   (Member)

I think we've all been quite patient and there's no reason to say, "Well, it could be worse (compared to this other project that's even more poorly run)!"

https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=92109&forumID=7&archive=0

Remember this one ?

 
 Posted:   Feb 20, 2025 - 8:51 PM   
 By:   Guy   (Member)

I think we've all been quite patient and there's no reason to say, "Well, it could be worse (compared to this other project that's even more poorly run)!"

https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=92109&forumID=7&archive=0

Remember this one ?


Seems that the trend here is books about Ray !

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2025 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   MThiermann670   (Member)

It's unbelievable that weeks have gone by again without an update. Didn't someone ask about the accuracy of the shipping addresses? This only happens when the project is completed and shipping is imminent...

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 16, 2025 - 5:44 PM   
 By:   trevan323   (Member)

It's unbelievable that weeks have gone by again without an update. Didn't someone ask about the accuracy of the shipping addresses? This only happens when the project is completed and shipping is imminent...

To have paid for something so long ago and not have it seems to be a rip off. I don't understand the delay. There should be perks for those of us who have waited, more than just the books. A CD perhaps of Goldsmith music? A signed Goldsmith CD? I don't blame Jeff Bond, but there must be a solution.

 
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