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In chronological order of FSM Fox releases, we have (scores that haven't yet been revisited/improved in BOLD):
https://filmscoremonthly.com/cds/list.cfm?sortby=r&sortdir=2
1. Stagecoach / The Loner (Goldsmith) - remastered by LLL in the past decade
2. The Poseidon Adventure / Conrack / The Paper Chase (Williams) - first score redone by LLL *twice* in the past decade; the other two deserve a revisit and may get one because it's Williams!
3. Fantastic Voyage (Rosenman) - remastered by LLL in the past decade
4. The Cabinet of Caligari (Fried, paired with three of his scores for United Artists) - the best of the four scores and it too deserves a revisit with improved sound, IMO.
5. 100 Rifles (Goldsmith) - remastered by LLL just a few years ago
6. Patton (Goldsmith) / Flight of the Phoenix (DeVol) - BOTH scores redone definitively by Intrada in the past decade or so
7. Prince Valiant (Waxman) - That bonus suite of (otherwise wonderful) wow-riddled cues near the end of the disc makes this great score a MUST for revisiting, IMO.
8. Prince of Foxes (Newman) - remastered and even substantially expanded by Kritzerland just a few years ago
9. The Comancheros (Bernstein) - remastered by Kritzerland in the past decade
10. All About Eve / Leave Her to Heaven (Newman) - the latter remastered and substantially expanded by Kritzerland a few years ago; I'm shocked the former famous score hasn't been revisited by anyone yet!
11. Rio Conchos (Goldsmith) - substantially remastered by Mike Mattesino for Kritzerland about half a decade ago, and that master reissued by LLL a couple years after
12. The Flim-Flam Man / A Girl Named Sooner (Goldsmith) - the former revisited and slightly expanded by LLL just last December; the latter will presumably be revisited in an upcoming Goldsmith at 20th volume from them
13. Take A Hard Ride (Goldsmith) - remastered by LLL in the past decade
14. Beneath the Planet of the Apes (Rosenman) - remastered by LLL just a few years ago
15. Tora! Tora! Tora! (Goldsmith) - remastered by LLL in the past decade, and that same master just reissued by them paired with Ace Eli and Rodger of the Skies
16. A Guide for the Married Man (Williams) - a revisit probably depends on whether Williams is willing to approve the re-release of one of his 60s comedy scores
17. The Undefeated (Montenegro) / Hombre (Rose) - the latter short score has never been revisited (unless you count a Twilight Time isolated score track), but the former was by Kritzerland in the past decade
18. Batman (Riddle) - remastered by LLL in the past decade
19. From the Terrace (Bernstein) - great score that could use a revisit (besides the Twilight Time iso score), but it doesn't seem like Bernstein sells all that well...at least it was undamaged
20. The Stripper / Nick Quarry (Goldsmith) - the former revisited and slightly expanded by LLL just a few months ago; the latter will presumably be revisited in an upcoming Goldsmith at 20th volume from them
21. Beneath the 12-Mile Reef (Herrmann) - remastered by Varese in their Herrmann set and then revisited by Kritzerland on its own in the past decade
22. Conquest of the Planet of the Apes (Scott) / Battle for the Planet of the Apes (Rosenman) - remastered by LLL just a few years ago
23. How to Marry a Millionaire (Mockridge/Newman) - has some damaged music so could use a revisit; it maybe seems a bit unlikely prospect at this point but one never knows...
24. The Towering Inferno (Williams) - repaired/substantially remastered version released by LLL just a few years ago
25. Untamed (Waxman) - no one has revisited this wonderful score yet (unless you count a Twilight Time isolated score track which might sound better than the old FSM CD)
26. The Egyptian (Newman/Herrmann) - Varese revisited in complete and remastered form about a decade ago, and LLL has done their own further improvement since then!
27. The French Connection / French Connection II (Ellis) - remastered by LLL in the past decade
28. A Man Called Peter (Newman) - remastered by Kritzerland in the past decade
29. Room 222 / Ace Eli and Rodger of the Skies - the latter was just substantially remastered and released by LLL; the former will presumably be revisited in an upcoming Goldsmith at 20th volume from them
30. Between Heaven and Hell / Soldier of Fortune (Friedhofer) - neither of these has been revisited and they both deserve it! The former was complete on FSM but the sound might be improvable, whereas the second was a very damaged score and is missing a lot of cues deemed unsalvageable at the time; as with Ace Eli or Take Her, She's Mine...maybe the story would be different with modern tech?
31. Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea (Sawtell/Shefter) - remastered by LLL in the past decade
32. The Best of Everything (Newman) - the FSM had some cues in damaged stereo form which could probably be fixed today...unless they were already repaired by Mike Mattesino for the Twilight Time Blu-ray isolated score track?
33. Morituri (Goldsmith) / Raid on Entebbe (Shire) - the former was remastered and slightly expanded by Intrada last year; the latter great Shire score could use an expanded revisit!
34. The Bravados (Newman/Friedhofer) - there's at least one damaged stereo cue on the FSM and I'd be happy for this one to get a revisit!
35. The View from Pompey's Head (Bernstein) / Blue Denim (Herrmann) - the latter was remastered by Varese for their giant Herrmann at Fox set about a decade ago; the FSM product page for the former doesn't mention whether it was complete, but a revisit with better cover art (perhaps paired with From the Terrace for a Bernstein twofer?) would be great!
36. John Goldfarb, Please Come Home! (Williams) - I don't see Williams approving a revisit of this title, do you? 
37. Broken Lance (Harline) - This might be my favorite Leigh Harline score, and it was almost complete on the FSM (one short cue was omitted); I haven't checked to see whether that cue was found and included on the Twilight Time Blu-ray isolated score track from a decade and a half later, and whether the sound was at all improved on that... I would buy a CD reissue if there were any improvements to be made.
38. Demetrius and the Gladiators (Waxman) - remastered by Kritzerland in the past decade
So, by my count that's 38 Fox albums from FSM covering a whopping 52 individual titles total, 31 of which have been subsequently improved and revisited by other labels at least once on CD and 21 of which have not (but 3 of those are Jerry Goldsmith and will almost certainly be appearing in LLL's current Goldsmith at 20th series). I admit that more haven't been revisited than I expected, but it's still a clear minority!
Of the non-Goldsmith Fox titles released by FSM but not yet revisited by another label on CD (so again Twilight Time doesn't count, even if further improvements were made on the iso tracks), these are the top five I think most in need of a revisit, in rough order of priority: Prince Valiant, Soldier of Fortune, Conrack, All About Eve, The Cabinet of Caligari.
What do you all think? Are there any FSM Fox titles from a couple decades ago which you'd like to see revisited and improved by Intrada or LLL at this point?
Yavar
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Yeah it would be swell if Varese would revisit those titles as well, as they did with the post-box standalone 500 copy edition of Journey to the Center of the Earth (which sold out in record time!) Doesn't seem likely at this point though, and no other label can do it. At least the box exists, however out of reach it is now...
Yavar
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not FSM but Retrograde -- Deadfall. Lots of unreleased score tracks.
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Oh, good one! I think that the full film tracks were released on an isolated score track but never on album, correct? Would be great to get a 2 CD combo edition with both those as well as the original stereo album program...
Yavar
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While not released by FSM, I would love for one of the labels to revisit Waxman’s Story of Ruth (which I missed out on) as well as Prince Valiant. I don’t know if the Varése was missing any music or not, but it could probably use an upgrade in sound regardless.
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What do you all think?
I think the entire global population should be abducted and brainwashed to love monaural sound recordings.
This way, we'd have 7.9 billion human customers willing to buy albums mastered from rustling/crackling acetate sources.
This'll make Chris Malone happy.
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What a wonderful list. Thank you for taking the time to compile it.
All of those titles you highlighted in bold are more-than worthy of being revisited, but to be brief I'll focus on my personal top two priorities: "The View From Pompey's Head" and "From the Terrace," both top 10 Bernstein scores for me. I adore those scores (and I would love it if romantic films in 2021 were still scored like this!).
I've seen the film of "Pompey's Head" and I don't recall anything missing from the FSM. An interesting film, but it has been a long time since I've watched it. I may be mistaken, but I approached the film as a huge Bernstein fan first and foremost so I was paying a lot of attention to the music (as well as his spotting, of course). I would say it's complete, or at least pretty darn close to complete.
Both of those FSM releases sound great considering when the scores were recorded and when the CDs were released, but they can undoubtedly sound better. I loved the film, but I don't have the Blu-ray of "Terrace" to check out the isolated score's quality. "Pompey's Head" has never had a VHS, laserdisc, DVD, or Blu-ray release - the version I saw was taped off of television decades ago and was in pretty poor shape. There are actually a lot of old Fox films like this that have never had any kind of release on physical media.
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Gee Cody maybe they’d prefer you to start a new thread/subject, since you aren’t interested in THIS one. Why don’t you leave this thread to people who want to talk about early FSM Fox titles (some a quarter century old) which they’d like to see revisited with new tech? Some of the best cues in Prince Valiant are plagued with serious wow, and I’m really not able to enjoy them. A score this great deserves a revisit as much as any Goldsmith score… I’d have thought you’d agree about that.
And if you’re really against revisiting titles you shouldn’t want Flicka, because Tsunami put that out on a full album a couple decades ago. Yeah, I’d love an officially licensed release of that too! But it WAS released (and legal as far as I know, thanks to European copyright law). Here you go, go buy it (only $15):
https://www.discogs.com/release/5826203-Alfred-Newman-My-Friend-Flicka-Original-Motion-Picture-Soundtrack
Now sure one of our specialty labels could certainly do a version today with better sound and better artwork…but guess what? That’s my argument for Waxman’s Prince Valiant too.
“What unreleased Golden Age Fox scores do you want?” seems like a GREAT (but DIFFERENT) subject… so again, why don’t you go start that thread rather than shitting all over this one? You are just the most bizarre person…why on earth would anyone be “afraid to speak up”? Is this another conspiracy of mine, in your mind? Think I have something against unreleased scores? I don’t. It’s not an either/or situation. And other people are simply able to realize that they aren’t the subject of this thread. You, on the other hand, seem to feel it is your important contribution and solemn duty to inform people who want to discuss something you don’t care about that what they want is wrong and they shouldn’t be talking about it! (Weren’t you crying about free speech over and over in the past, acting like you were being silenced? Yet here you are in a thread about previously released scores, telling people within it that they should only want, and want to talk about, unreleased scores!)
Yavar
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I can see persona non grata misses me.
Yeah, I made the mistake of looking at the thread while I wasn’t signed in, just to see you up to your usual tricks. You told me you wanted us to both consider each other “persona non grata” as you like to say, and avoid interaction with each other. I’ve been avoiding interaction with you. You said you were going to block/ignore me, yet here you come on a thread I started (and clearly spent some work on) only to police the discussion between myself and others, telling us we shouldn’t be talking about this subject I started but something else entirely. What do YOU have against free speech, Cody? And why do you miss ME so much that you can’t help but come here and shit on a thread I started about a subject which supposedly doesn’t interest you?
I’ll tell you why… because you can’t help but be a toxic presence on this board.
Yavar
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Thanks for the great research and capsule summaries, Yavar.
It’s amazing to think how much was made possible in what simultaneously seems like yesterday to me and the decades ago it actually was.
Looking over that list, I feel like these releases were probably all little miracles of their own. It’s a fine testament to the efforts of Nick Redman, the Fox asset preservation people, and Lukas working with his excellent engineers.
Sadly, I suspect not all of these found—or would find in future—the wide audience that they deserved.
However, if we are to protect the cultural heritage of our planet then we need to restore and archive these scores with the best sound possible.
If that also means that they continue to get reworked, reissued, and made available to a new generation of people to discover and fall in love with, then we have all succeeded keeping the film music flame burning.
Chris
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The hero's of film music preservation are Fox & MGM, so many great sounding preserved stereo soundtracks from the 50s & 60s. As well as all the FSM releases, there was the great Fox two-fers releases from Intrada. The trouble with re-releasing them is that the sales would be so low now, I think we're getting close to the 500 limited edition (& there's plenty of those for European soundtrack releases). The two Fox soundtracks that I really wanted that never appeared were, White Feather (1955) Hugo Friedhofer & 23 Paces To Baker Street (1956) Leigh Harline.
Do not forget Kritzerland ("O.Henry's Full House", the "Preminger set" among others). Even La-La Land gave us Alfred Newman's "Man Hunt" (1941). A very much appreciated gift from them instead of poor sales, I believe.
Now, David Buttolph..... he composed the music for several good films at Fox (Swamp Water, Immortal sergeant, Buffalo Bill, The House on 92nd Street, 13 Rue Madeleine) and he deserves some... "justice". By the Way, Bruce Kimmel gave us "Secret of the incas", another miracle (Paramount's this time), so thanks Mr. Kimmel and Kritzerland.
I wonder to myself if the original recordings from two Jeanne Crain films: Alfred Newman's "Pinky" (sparse music) and Daniele Amfitheatrof's "The Fan" exists. Surely for the former I'm quite convinced that the recording shoul be preserved at the studio vaults now property of Disney.
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I'll add Alex North's "The Long Hot Summer" to this list. I don't know if much can be done about the SQ because the original release sounded pretty poor. It's North at his best, though.
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