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 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 9:15 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I never actually owned this score on CD...until today.
All the talk about the rejected Goldsmith score got me searching for any copies on the web, and lo and behold, there was one, for a fiver, on eBay.
I remembered quite liking it in the film, which I saw at the cinema, back when it was released.
It's actually a pretty great score.
It creates the perfect mood for the drama it underscores.
Suspenseful, but never dull or boring. And there's a beautiful, tragic vibe to the softer theme, which if I recall correctly, captures the Pesci character to a tee.
I hear faint strains of similarly great scores, by the likes of James Newton Howard (GUILTY BY SUSPICION) and Christopher Young (I can't pick out a title right now, but I deffo hear his vibe in some tracks).
The Isham mood is offset by four lively, well positioned Jazz/Blues Band tracks by Shorty Rogers, that help keep the score mood from becoming too much of the same thing.
A pretty great release overall.
Any other fans of this music out there?
I'll be interested to hear the Goldsmith effort (a friend's copy) for comparison.

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 9:32 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

I never actually owned this score on CD...until today.
All the talk about the rejected Goldsmith score got me searching for any copies on the web, and lo and behold, there was one, for a fiver, on eBay.
I remembered quite liking it in the film, which I saw at the cinema, back when it was released.
It's actually a pretty great score.
It creates the perfect mood for the drama it underscores.
Suspenseful, but never dull or boring. And there's a beautiful, tragic vibe to the softer theme, which if I recall correctly, captures the Pesci character to a tee.
I hear faint strains of similarly great scores, by the likes of James Newton Howard (GUILTY BY SUSPICION) and Christopher Young (I can't pick out a title right now, but I deffo hear his vibe in some tracks).
The Isham mood is offset by four lively, well positioned Jazz/Blues Band tracks by Shorty Rogers, that help keep the score mood from becoming too much of the same thing.
A pretty great release overall.
Any other fans of this music out there?
I'll be interested to hear the Goldsmith effort (a friend's copy) for comparison.


Are there any clips somewhere?

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 9:33 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I think there's a decent amount on YouTube to listen to:



Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

and Christopher Young (I can't pick out a title right now, but I deffo hear his vibe in some tracks).

You're probably thinking of The Hurricane by Christopher Young. BTW - even though Young wrote the score seven years later, I feel confident that he didn't go to Burwell's work for inspiration. Young, as a practice, has always punched up).

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 9:48 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

I think there's a decent amount on YouTube to listen to:



Yavar


@ Yavar: Thank you. Ok score, but doesn't hold a candle to Mr. Goldsmith's sophisticated sounding score (not even the samples of said score).

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 9:53 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

This is an excellent score by Isham. I edit out the jazz.blues non Isham tracks which break the dark, brooding mood.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 10:09 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

"I feel confident that he didn't go to Burwell's (sic) work for inspiration"
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No surprise to see you turning a blind eye to any hint of a Chris Young transgression, A&C and finding the Goldsmith rejected score vastly superior, even from some samples.

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

I knew when the Goldsmith one turned up it would be hailed as the superior score. Away you all go…this has always been a terrific work by Mark and combines the jazzy feel with a dark melancholia. Perfect for the film and another belter from the sensational Mr Isham!

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I knew when the Goldsmith one turned up it would be hailed as the superior score. Away you all go…

Only one person has said that so far...

this has always been a terrific work by Mark and combines the jazzy feel with a dark melancholia. Perfect for the film another belter from the sensational Mr Isham!

I'm a big Mark Isham fan but never got this score. I'm interested to check it out.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Samples here:

https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/the-public-eye-mark-isham/0003020653749

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 12:03 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)


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No surprise to see you turning a blind eye to any hint of a Chris Young transgression


I can read these words, but I'm not certain I understand what they mean. Hint: Please, please, don't try to "enlighten" me. There is already a massive surplus to requirements of "enlightenment" around the parts.

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

I knew when the Goldsmith one turned up it would be hailed as the superior score.

Can we apply this "skill" of yours to predict stock market results?

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 12:10 PM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

I knew when the Goldsmith one turned up it would be hailed as the superior score.

Can we apply this "skill" of yours to predict stock market results?


Only if there’s stock in Jerry Goldsmith! smile I’m not meaning any offence in this it just so often feels things are judged here by ‘the man’ rather than the music. ..And I’m a Goldsmith fan .. (second favourite ever score is Jerry’s)

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 12:13 PM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

I knew when the Goldsmith one turned up it would be hailed as the superior score. Away you all go…

Only one person has said that so far...

this has always been a terrific work by Mark and combines the jazzy feel with a dark melancholia. Perfect for the film another belter from the sensational Mr Isham!

I'm a big Mark Isham fan but never got this score. I'm interested to check it out.

Yavar


You’re right Yavar …( got to say I love your long comments by the way.. don’t let any eejits here change your posting!)
…as for the Jerry point……I’ll wait a few days and post it again smile
..right…back to the Italy game !

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 12:17 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

I knew when the Goldsmith one turned up it would be hailed as the superior score.

Can we apply this "skill" of yours to predict stock market results?


Only if there’s stock in Jerry Goldsmith! smile I’m not meaning any offence in this it just so often feels things are judged here by ‘the man’ rather than the music. ..And I’m a Goldsmith fan .. (second favourite ever score is Jerry’s)


Hahaha! No offense taken. I was just trying to make a few bucks.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 12:20 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Don't worry AC, I wouldn't waste my time.
You can't teach a blind man to see.

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 12:24 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Don't worry AC, I wouldn't waste my time.
You can't teach a blind man to see.


Blind? I taught we were here to listen?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 12:30 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Haha!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2021 - 2:43 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

These two cues dig beneath the loneliness of the main character...





They have that bittersweet, Chris Young vibe I mentioned previously.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2021 - 4:30 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

They were really good, Kev, thanks. Didn’t sound like John Barry at all!

 
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