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 Posted:   Jun 22, 2021 - 10:09 AM   
 By:   DavidCorkum   (Member)

Am I the only person who really likes this Goldsmith theme FAR better in this score than either Gladiator before it or The Vanishing after it?

No I think it seems to work very well within the context of a period film noir, as opposed to just a contemporary melancholy theme. I think it would work well as a trumpet solo (assuming there isn't one, I don't have the CD yet).

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2021 - 10:13 AM   
 By:   Steven Lloyd   (Member)

Am I the only person who really likes this Goldsmith theme FAR better in this score than either Gladiator before it or The Vanishing after it?


Nope -- you're not absolutely alone, Yavar, since I don't care for GLADIATOR or THE VANISHING at all, yet am delighted with THE PUBLIC EYE on just two listens. And I was full of advance doubt because I didn't like any earlier rejected Goldsmith score (I don't include LEGEND, which was replaced only for the U.S. and Canada, not tossed globally). So no ALIEN NATION or 2 DAYS IN THE VALLEY for me, either.

But PUBLIC EYE, with that insistent presence of double bass, sustains a wonderful atmosphere that reminds me of the dread-and-suspense material in THE RUSSIA HOUSE. I can't read the booklet notes yet because I never saw the picture, though I now want very much to watch it to appreciate Goldsmith's narrative intentions.

However, PUBLIC EYE pulled me in too deeply to recognize the link you have made with THE SHADOW. That's intriguing; so I'll try again.

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2021 - 10:35 AM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

I can't read the booklet notes yet because I never saw the picture...

You're safe to read the notes. Frank DeWald made a point of not referring to the movie, and just goes over the music itself - quite nicely, I'll add.

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2021 - 10:38 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Nope -- you're not absolutely alone, Yavar, since I don't care for GLADIATOR or THE VANISHING at all, yet am delighted with THE PUBLIC EYE on just two listens.

Yeah I actually like Gladiator and The Vanishing well enough, but I admit they are among my less-played Goldsmith scores. The Public Eye just clicked with me immediately on a first listen.

And I was full of advance doubt because I didn't like any earlier rejected Goldsmith score (I don't include LEGEND, which was replaced only for the U.S. and Canada, not tossed globally). So no ALIEN NATION or 2 DAYS IN THE VALLEY for me, either.

I'm kinda surprised you don't care for the latter; it's not as memorable and unified as score as The Public Eye but I think it's solid modern noir music and I dig it. So are you saying that some of Goldsmith's later rejected scores (like Timeline) you do like?

But PUBLIC EYE, with that insistent presence of double bass, sustains a wonderful atmosphere that reminds me of the dread-and-suspense material in THE RUSSIA HOUSE. I can't read the booklet notes yet because I never saw the picture, though I now want very much to watch it to appreciate Goldsmith's narrative intentions.

I think you'll really enjoy the soon-to-be-published Soundtrack Spotlight podcast on this, because I similarly made a connection to The Russia House in it too!

However, PUBLIC EYE pulled me in too deeply to recognize the link you have made with THE SHADOW. That's intriguing; so I'll try again.

Ooh, let me know if you hear it. It struck me immediately, perhaps because The Shadow is such a favorite score of mine. If you continue to have trouble hearing it I'll get you exact timestamps to compare.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2021 - 10:16 PM   
 By:   zooba   (Member)

A usage of the Main Theme in the rejected GLADIATOR score:

 
 Posted:   Jun 24, 2021 - 10:39 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

A usage of the Main Theme in the rejected GLADIATOR score:



I did some clips from the Gladiator rejected score on my Vimeo channel: https://vimeo.com/347688461

 
 Posted:   Jun 25, 2021 - 5:45 AM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

Hey, we're finally up with our Spotlight on this one. You can hear lots more of the score (often under our talking, but you can still hear it quite well). We've got 8 new Goldsmith CDs in a 12 week period, so I understand being selective, but I hope those in doubt about this one might get a better feel for the whole thing here, because it's is an unearthed gem, for me, and the true home for that theme that started in Gladiator, then ended up in The Vanishing. That's the heart of this score, but the music is also thoughtful. It does not sound like, but often feels like, the contemplative parts of the Medicine Man score. It's a really good album to just let play.

https://www.buzzsprout.com/159614/episodes/8759839

The Goldsmith releases keep pouring in, which means we've got yet another Soundtrack Spotlight for you! This time, we're examining a particularly thrilling Goldsmith premiere: Intrada's new release of the rejected score for the 1992 film The Public Eye. Your humble hosts Yavar and David are joined by the album's liner notes writer Frank DeWald, who analyzes the score from a purely musical perspective, and Intrada's Douglass Fake, who provides some thoughts on how the music might have worked in relation to the film for which it was written. Among the other topics of discussion: the contrasts between Goldsmith's music and Mark Isham's replacement score, the distinctive instrumental choices (eliminating brass, while employing double bass, triangle, and light electronic touches) Goldsmith made on this score, Frank's approach to writing liner notes, the other Goldsmith efforts this score's main theme has appeared in, what we know about why the score was rejected, and more. As usual, you'll hear plenty of illustrative excerpts from the new album along the way. This is music that will be brand-new to most Goldsmith fans, so don't miss this revealing snapshot of an important new release!



 
 
 Posted:   Jun 25, 2021 - 9:23 AM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I just ordered this.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2021 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   Damian   (Member)

Does no one hear Psycho 2 in this ?( Tr. 1. at 1mn for starters)

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2021 - 11:38 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Does no one hear Psycho 2 in this ?( Tr. 1. at 1mn for starters)

Yes. And, of course, in Gladiator and The Vanishing too!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2021 - 12:19 PM   
 By:   Damian   (Member)

Haven't touched the vanishing in ages.

 
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