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 Posted:   Jun 1, 2021 - 5:06 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

I met someone who grew up in a household where no one was allowed to listen to music. This person has no music collection, and only rarely listens to music.

There's not even a radio or music-self-producing entity anywhere in the house! (There is a piano, but they don't play.)

 
 Posted:   Jun 1, 2021 - 5:23 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

There is a piano, but they don't play.

That's because it plays itself…

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 1, 2021 - 7:11 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Parental "no" = offspring "no"

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2021 - 1:53 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Sad story.

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2021 - 2:26 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

This reminds me a little of a friend of mine. Not so much that he wasn't allowed to listen to music when younger, but that he just never has. He's never bought any music whatsoever, doesn't listen to music radio and has never been to a show or concert. He has just no interest, and the only radio he listens to is BBC World Service. He's in his early 60s now.

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2021 - 2:40 AM   
 By:   Nedmerrill   (Member)

This reminds me a little of a friend of mine. Not so much that he wasn't allowed to listen to music when younger, but that he just never has. He's never bought any music whatsoever, doesn't listen to music radio and has never been to a show or concert. He has just no interest, and the only radio he listens to is BBC World Service. He's in his early 60s now.

That's ironic, because the only thing not allowed in my house is BBC news.

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2021 - 4:25 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

Wow! I can't imagine parents not allowing any music - certain types, perhaps. I grew up with kids whose parents forbade rock n roll, but all music? I've also known parents that forbade television in their homes; radio was allowed but no TV. Usually it was due to some religious affiliation.
That was something about my Dad that I always admired and respected; he was a music minister and didn't like rock n roll, but he tolerated it.
It's hard for me to imagine growing up with no music allowed at home. Poor kids.

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2021 - 4:34 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

Mrs Jehannum doesn't like any music (especially mine, it seems).

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2021 - 5:46 AM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

This reminds me a little of a friend of mine. Not so much that he wasn't allowed to listen to music when younger, but that he just never has. He's never bought any music whatsoever, doesn't listen to music radio and has never been to a show or concert. He has just no interest, and the only radio he listens to is BBC World Service. He's in his early 60s now.

That's ironic, because the only thing not allowed in my house is BBC news.


Ned wins Bill Carson's Post of the day. A rule i follow in my house too. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2021 - 6:41 AM   
 By:   Damian   (Member)

Mrs Jehannum doesn't like any music (especially mine, it seems).

And yet she doesn't mind you telling us she's a soundtracks collectors wife big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2021 - 6:54 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

The man that hath no music in himself, Nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds, Is fit for treasons, stratagems, and spoils; The motions of his spirit are dull as night, And his affections dark as Erebus. Let no such man be trusted. Mark the music.

[Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice. Set to music by Ralph Vaughan Williams, in Serenade to Music.]

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2021 - 7:47 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Is the thread title a pun on "No CD, No Sale?

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2021 - 8:18 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

The man that hath no music in himself, Nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds, Is fit for treasons, stratagems, and spoils; The motions of his spirit are dull as night, And his affections dark as Erebus. Let no such man be trusted. Mark the music.

[Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice. Set to music by Ralph Vaughan Williams, in Serenade to Music.]


I do think that, whenever Shakespeare is quoted, the character name should be included. Otherwise we could all be looking to Iago or Lady Macbeth for guidance.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2021 - 9:27 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I wonder if there are key developmental thresholds by which you need to experience music in order to gain an appreciation of it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2021 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   Damian   (Member)

Otherwise we could all be looking to Iago or Lady Macbeth for guidance.

A
Lovely lady, apparently. The.victim of bad press!

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2021 - 10:10 AM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

Otherwise we could all be looking to Iago or Lady Macbeth for guidance.

A
Lovely lady, apparently. The.victim of bad press!


I fancied her. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2021 - 11:33 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

The man that hath no music in himself, Nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds, Is fit for treasons, stratagems, and spoils; The motions of his spirit are dull as night, And his affections dark as Erebus. Let no such man be trusted. Mark the music. [Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice. Set to music by Ralph Vaughan Williams, in Serenade to Music.]

I do think that, whenever Shakespeare is quoted, the character name should be included. Otherwise we could all be looking to Iago or Lady Macbeth for guidance.


Fair point. It's Lorenzo, the young man who was in love with Shylock's daughter. I had to look it up myself, since I haven't read Merchant since 1961. The passage is more familiar to me from RVW's gorgeous setting. In the play it is spoken during the Act V rejoicing over the foiling of Shylock's plan. I should have quoted it as verse:

The man that hath no music in himself,
Nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds,
Is fit for treasons, stategems, and spoils.
The motions of his spirit are dull as night,
And his affections dark as Erebus.

Bonus question: In what opera did the composer-librettist take words from the same Shakespearean scene for the text of the central love duet?

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 5:24 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

This reminds me a little of a friend of mine. Not so much that he wasn't allowed to listen to music when younger, but that he just never has. He's never bought any music whatsoever, doesn't listen to music radio and has never been to a show or concert. He has just no interest, and the only radio he listens to is BBC World Service. He's in his early 60s now.

That's ironic, because the only thing not allowed in my house is BBC news.


Ned wins Bill Carson's Post of the day. A rule i follow in my house too. smile


News from the Beeb is the only SANE newscast I ever hear. Sadly I gotta wake up with the birds to hear it.

 
 Posted:   Jun 3, 2021 - 5:25 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

Is the thread title a pun on "No CD, No Sale?

Pa-dum crasssshhhhh!

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2021 - 1:58 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

Bonus question: In what opera did the composer-librettist take words from the same Shakespearean scene for the text of the central love duet?

I don't know. Which opera was it?

 
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