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Apr 6, 2021 - 6:48 PM
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Ostinato
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Tuesday Trivia: The photo below depicts the earliest examples of Godzilla music on CD, released in late 1986. All four albums started out as LPs in the early 80s, and interestingly, none of them contain original film cues. The two "Godzilla Legend Chronology" volumes present synthesizer arrangements of Showa-era themes, not only from Godzilla films but related monster flicks as well. The bottom left CD features the 1983 concert premiere of Akira Ifukube's "Symphonic Fantasia", a presentation of his most famous kaiju themes in three movements. The final CD, "Ostinato" consists of re-recordings of Toho monster themes, initially commissioned to accompany a video of Toho outtakes.
All of these CDs have since been repressed and/or reissued in various forms, but the curious attribute of these first editions is their flexible plastic, adhesive-backed obi's.
Nice trivia there! I don't think many know about that. I sure hope some are familiar with the albums at least.
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Apr 13, 2021 - 7:34 AM
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increbula
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Speaking of the original Complete Recordings issues, the release dates are an enigma. Some sources state that most were released in 1987, while the back of the albums list release dates between 1988 - 1989. I'm sure the latter is accurate though. It also doesn't help that most of them have a 1987 phonographic copyright printed on the discs themselves (probably when the tapes were transferred and the albums being produced).
Actually, most of the Complete Recordings set was released in 1987. The first four volumes were released on April 22nd, the next four came out on May 25th, and the Daiei (Majin) volume was released on November 25th. Only the Toei-Doga volume was released in 1988 (January 25th).
Many Japanese CDs show more than one date on their packaging. The earlier date is the release date and the second date represents the cutoff before rentals are permitted (Japan is one of the few countries where CD rental is legal), which is usually a year after the release date. To add to the confusion, between 1984 and 1990 (in come cases, as late as 1993), many Japanese CDs used a letter rather than a number to represent the year of release. These letters were based on the phrase "NIHON RECORD" (taken from "Nippon Rekodo Kyokai", The Recording Industry Association in Japan). That's why the "Complete Recordings" series shows "O" for 1987 and "R" for 1988. The letter "X" indicates the rental ban cutoff date, so "X~89-1-24", which appears on the Toei-Doga volume (the only one that shows the year 1989), means that rentals were banned until January 24th, 1989.
You can read more details about Japanese release dates on these links:
https://reference.discogs.com/wiki/japanese-release-dates
https://sanremo-co.blogspot.com/2012/05/bit-knowledge-about-japanese-cds-date.html
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Apr 13, 2021 - 7:58 AM
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Ostinato
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Actually, most of the Complete Recordings set was released in 1987. The first four volumes were released on April 22nd, the next four came out on May 25th, and the Daiei (Majin) volume was released on November 25th. Only the Toei-Doga volume was released in 1988 (January 25th).
Many Japanese CDs show more than one date on their packaging. The earlier date is the release date and the second date represents the cutoff before rentals are permitted (Japan is one of the few countries where CD rental is legal). To add to the confusion, between 1984 and 1993 many Japanese CDs used a letter rather than a number to represent the year of release. These letters are based on the phrase "NIHON RECORD". That's why the "Complete Recordings" series shows "O" for 1987 and "R" for 1988. The letter "X" indicates the rental cutoff date, so "X~89-1-24", which appears on the Toei-Doga volume (the only one that shows the year 1989), means that rentals were allowed after January 24th, 1989.
You can read more details about Japanese release dates on these links:
https://reference.discogs.com/wiki/japanese-release-dates
https://sanremo-co.blogspot.com/2012/05/bit-knowledge-about-japanese-cds-date.html
Yeah, I do recall that Japanese labels used that weird system at that point. I've always had the feeling most of the Complete Recordings albums were actually released in 1987. In fact, my old blog post (while I'll finally be able to proper update) for Complete Recordings 2 has it listed being released in 1987. Discogs list them being released in 1988, but they clearly used the rental prohibition cutoff date now that I think of it. LOL! That and the fact the prohibition cutoff date was listed before the release date confused me for a bit until you reminded me of that odd system. I'm surprised I forgot about it, since I'm pretty attuned to the copyright and other symbols Japanese albums use. I actually have the RIAJ PDF files covering the symbols used and what they mean.
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@ Mr. Ostinato: I got Tales of Osaka Castle a while back. You're going to enjoy it big time (I think).
Can you possibly steer me towards where you found a sealed copy TYCY-5469-70, please?
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Apr 19, 2021 - 1:23 AM
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Ifukube
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I got my copy of Complete Recordings 11 on eBay, where I've got the majority of my recent stuff. As mentioned, the particular copy I got is a rare sample copy for promotional purposes. They weren't supposed to be for sale. I haven't opened it up yet, so I don't yet know any differences between the regular copies and the sample copy other than the sticker on the back. If you are interested in the album, the same seller I got my copy from has another copy for sale. It's used and isn't a sample copy, but it does have the obi and appears to be in pretty good shape.
Cool. I didn't realize that your Complete Recordings 11 was a Toshiba EMI Futureland promo sample copy! I also own a couple of Toshiba EMI Futureland promotional sample CDs - I have one for the Godzilla/Rodan rechanneled stereo CD, one for Varan and I also have two 'still sealed' 1993 Toshiba-Futureland promo sample CDs for Godzilla vs. Sea Monster and Son Of Godzilla.
Typically, these promo CDs can be confirmed by the sample stickers on the back insert, and by text that is printed on the inner ring of the disc itself...it should say "Sample Not For Sale" either in English or in Japanese...I have seen both examples, but otherwise these promo sample CDs are identical to the regular retail versions.
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Apr 19, 2021 - 8:42 AM
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Ostinato
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Cool. I didn't realize that your Complete Recordings 11 was a Toshiba EMI Futureland promo sample copy! I also own a couple of Toshiba EMI Futureland promotional sample CDs - I have one for the Godzilla/Rodan rechanneled stereo CD, one for Varan and I also have two 'still sealed' 1993 Toshiba-Futureland promo sample CDs for Godzilla vs. Sea Monster and Son Of Godzilla.
Typically, these promo CDs can be confirmed by the sample stickers on the back insert, and by text that is printed on the inner ring of the disc itself...it should say "Sample Not For Sale" either in English or in Japanese...I have seen both examples, but otherwise these promo sample CDs are identical to the regular retail versions.
Yep, I saw that sticker when I checked out the eBay listing. I translated it after I sent my offer, and sure enough, it's a sample copy!
Oh man, I don't like that Godzilla/Rodan album. It sounds like a bunch of low quality mp3 files filled with artifacts. Those who are familiar with lossy file formats know exactly what I mean. However, it's great you have a sample copy of it (same goes for the others you have).
You are indeed spot on! I've seen the exact thing on the discs themselves whenever I came across a sample copy in the past. Other than the differences you mentioned, regular copies and sample copies are almost always the same. I can't wait to finally open up my copy of Complete Recordings 11, though I'm debating if I even should. I always feel a bit guilty when opening up sealed copies of old and rare releases. At least they're finally getting the use they were intended for.
Below is the sticker on my copy of Complete Recordings 11. I apologize for not being able to take a clearer photo.
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