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Feb 23, 2021 - 8:37 PM
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increbula
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Thank you very much increbula, for providing the track list to the Akira Ifukube Godzilla Film Music Collection set! Seeing it was certainly gratifying.
My pleasure! I discovered a bit more info about that release. According to the blog post below, the CD was limited to 450 copies which were sold only at the venue of the 4th Akira Ifukube Music Festival on July 13, 2014 (though I was fortunate enough to obtain one through a contact in Japan).
http://mtorisan.sblo.jp/article/101807399.html
And here is the official recording of the Festival, released later the same year:
http://www.godzillamonstermusic.com/KICC-1155.htm
Speaking of Ifukube's "Godzilla" '54, I made a custom version of the score to better approximate the cues as heard in the film. My track list is as follows (includes the proper cue numbers):
01. Main Title (DB-1 M-1·2)
02. Sinking of the Eiko-Maru (DB-2 M-3)
03. Sinking of the Bingo-Maru (DB-3 M-4)
04. Anxiety of Odo Island (DB-7 M-5)
05. Kagura of Odo Island (DB-10 M-6)
06. Storm at Odo Island (DB-11 M-7)
07. Research Vessel Departure (DB-13 M-8 (DB-20 M-11))
08. Theme of Odo Island (DB-15 M-9)
09. Frigate March I (DB-20 M-11)
10. Horror of the Water Tank (DB-28 M-13)
11. Shinagawa Chaos (DB-30 M-14=A + DB-11 M-7)
12. Destruction of Shinagawa (DB-31 M-15 (DB-14A M-A'))
13. Intercept Godzilla (DB-34 M-16)
14. Second Landing (DB-37 M-17 (DB-30 M-14=A))
15. Godzilla's Fury I ~ Fire Brigade (DB-39 M-18A (M-A' + DB-34 M-16))
16. Godzilla's Fury II ~ Desperate Broadcast (DB-43 (DB-14A M-A' + M-B))
17. Godzilla to Tokyo Bay ~ Last Assault (DB-44 M-18D (M-C + DB-1 M-1))
18. Devastation of the Imperial Capital (DB-46 M-19)
19. Oxygen Destroyer (DB-47 M-20)
20. Prayer for Peace (PS)
21. Frigate March II (DB-50 M-21)
22. Godzilla Under the Sea (DB-52 M-22)
23. Ending (DB-53 M-23)
Bonus Tracks
24. Main Title (DB-1 M-1)
25. Main Title (Footsteps and Roars) (DB-1 M-2)
26. Godzilla Landing (DB-30 M-14=A)
27. Godzilla's Fury (DB-14A M-A')
28. Desperate Broadcast (M-B)
29. Godzilla to Tokyo Bay (M-C)
That looks like a fascinating listen (and must certainly have been a lot of work)! I have to say, in general I prefer the streamlined approach of the Futureland CDs, which present the full, unedited cues in order (appended by bonus tracks and source music where applicable) - as opposed to the "film mix" method, which attempts to replicate the cues as heard in the films. One particularly irritating example comes to mind - the stereo version of "King Kong vs. Godzilla" in the first "Perfect Collection" box. As I previously mentioned, I don't like that stereo mix to begin with (the mono cues have far more impact), but the listening experience is further spoiled by clumsy segues and sudden cuts.
One question I have regarding cue numbers: I know that "M" stands for "music", but what does "DB" signify? It's probably something obvious, but I've always wondered about it. 
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Feb 23, 2021 - 8:44 PM
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Ostinato
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That looks like a fascinating listen (and must certainly have been a lot of work)! I have to say, in general I prefer the streamlined approach of the Futureland CDs, which present the full, unedited cues in order (appended by bonus tracks and source music where applicable) - as opposed to the "film mix" method, which attempts to replicate the cues as heard in the films. One particularly irritating example comes to mind - the stereo version of "King Kong vs. Godzilla" in the first "Perfect Collection" box. As I previously mentioned, I don't like that stereo mix to begin with (the mono cues have far more impact), but the listening experience is further spoiled by clumsy segues and sudden cuts.
One question I have regarding cue numbers: I know that "M" stands for "music", but what does "DB" signify? It's probably something obvious, but I've always wondered about it.
I too typically prefer the scores/cues as recorded. I made the custom version of the score based on the instructions on the cue sheets.
Unfortunately for certain scores such as "King Kong vs. Godzilla", the edits were made (probably by the recording engineer or a music mixer) according to their use in their respective films.
The DB numbers stand for "Dubbing" and are the dubbing numbers. In my opinion, are part of the overall cue numbers. If interested, I can list some of the scores with both DB and M numbers.
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Feb 23, 2021 - 9:10 PM
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increbula
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On the Waxwork Godzilla LP thread, Increbula and I listed the Futureland releases we had in our collections. I'd like to continue upon that by including a list of the Japanese scores I own. Everything is ordered by record label and sorted by catalogue number, not by release date (with the exception of a VAP album). As usual, album titles are translations of the Japanese album titles.
That's an impressive list - especially your Cinema Kan collection. With that label, I've been focusing mainly on their early sci-fi and horror film releases, plus anything by Satoh and, of course, Ifukube. I'll refrain from listing my entire Japanese collection because it would probably take up a full thread page (my Ifukube concert CDs alone number over a hundred).
I really enjoy following Cinema Kan's varied roster of releases, and look forward to what they will come up with next. My current wish list for that label:
* "Samurai Pirate" (aka, "The Lost World of Sinbad") by Masaru Satoh (only a couple of tracks have been released on compilations in the past).
* "The Whale God" by Akira Ifukube (an incomplete presentation was previously released on the Ifukube Complete Recordings "Toho-Daiei" volume.
* "The Adventures of Taklamakan" by Ifukube (also partially released on the volume above)
* Ifukube's soundtrack from the multimedia exhibit at Expo '70's Mitsubishi Pavilion (previously released on the Ifukube Complete Recording's "Toei-Doga" volume).
* "Sayonara Jupiter" by Kentaro Haneda (only the commercial LP version has been released on CD, plus a short suite on the "King of Monsters" 10-CD box)
* Also, the first three Showa "Gamera" scores, which were previously released on a 1995 3-disc set on the King label
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Feb 23, 2021 - 9:19 PM
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Ostinato
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That's an impressive list - especially your Cinema Kan collection. With that label, I've been focusing mainly on their early sci-fi and horror film releases, plus anything by Satoh and, of course, Ifukube. I'll refrain from listing my entire Japanese collection because it would probably take up a full thread page (my Ifukube concert CDs alone number over a hundred).
I really enjoy following Cinema Kan's varied roster of releases, and look forward to what they will come up with next. My current wish list for that label:
* "Samurai Pirate" (aka, "The Lost World of Sinbad") by Masaru Satoh (only a couple of tracks have been released on compilations in the past).
* "The Whale God" by Akira Ifukube (an incomplete presentation was previously released on the Ifukube Complete Recordings "Toho-Daiei" volume.
* "The Adventures of Taklamakan" by Ifukube (also partially released on the volume above)
* Ifukube's soundtrack from the multimedia exhibit at Expo '70's Mitsubishi Pavilion (previously released on the Ifukube Complete Recording's "Toei-Doga" volume).
* "Sayonara Jupiter" (only the commercial LP version has been released on CD, plus a short suite on the "King of Monsters" 10-CD box)
* Also, the first three Showa "Gamera" scores, which were previously released on a 1995 3-disc set on the King label
Thanks! It's quite obvious that Cinema-kan is my favorite label. Thanks to them, I've discovered many great scores and films.
I guess that's a benefit of having a smaller collection! LOL! If you'd like, you can list your collection in smaller portions. I'd love to see what you have.
Oh yes, those too are on my wish list, along with scores such as Tsushima's "Magnitude 7.9" (1980), with the ending cue being an absolute showstopper and in my opinion one of the most beautiful things composed for a film. There's also a ton of Ifukube I'd love to have released. The tapes to all of these scores won't last forever, so now is the time to preserve them.
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Feb 23, 2021 - 9:36 PM
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Ostinato
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I'm not familiar with "Magnitude 7.9", but your description is certainly enticing enough to sell me. As for Ifukube, he's one of my three favorite composers (along with Bernard Herrmann and Philip Glass), so I would welcome anything and everything. I doubt that much survives from his 40s scores, but there must be a lot of 50s and 60s tape reels collecting dust somewhere.
The film is known under the ridiculous title of "Deathquake". The film isn't bad, and the effects are pretty good. Tsushima did a great job with his score. You get hints of the ending theme at times. The ending cue itself is over 6 minutes long. Music from the film is included with the King of Monsters set, on disc 5, track 11. The ending cue is included in that track.
Every single Japanese score up into 1954 is lost. This is due to those scores being recorded optically. For whatever reason, the studios failed to keep those recordings. In 1954, magnetic tape recording was introduced, with "Seven Samurai" and "Sakuma Dam Part One" being some of the first known to be recorded on tape. However, there are numerous scores from 1954 up into the '70s which are partially or completely lost.
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Feb 23, 2021 - 10:16 PM
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increbula
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The film is known under the ridiculous title of "Deathquake". The film isn't bad, and the effects are pretty good. Tsushima did a great job with his score. You get hints of the ending theme at times. The ending cue itself is over 6 minutes long. Music from the film is included with the King of Monsters set, on disc 5, track 11. The ending cue is included in that track.
Oh, right - Deathquake! I haven't seen it, but I'll dig out my King box and give the track a listen.
Every single Japanese score up into 1954 is lost. This is due to those scores being recorded optically. For whatever reason, the studios failed to keep those recordings. In 1954, magnetic tape recording was introduced, with "Seven Samurai" and "Sakuma Dam Part One" being some of the first known to be recorded on tape. However, there are numerous scores from 1954 up into the '70s which are partially or completely lost.
I don't doubt it. As readers of this board are painfully aware, lost film scores are, sadly, not limited to Japan.
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Feb 24, 2021 - 9:35 AM
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Ostinato
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I don't doubt it. As readers of this board are painfully aware, lost film scores are, sadly, not limited to Japan.
Indeed.
Some of Ifukube's most important scores are lost, either partially or completely. "The Burmese Harp" is an example of one being partially lost. Only two reels survive, and everything on them are outtakes. "Buddha" is one that's completely lost. According to the Akira Ifukube website, the tapes were sent overseas (I believe RCA in England if I remember correctly) since Daiei didn't have the facilities to mix the audio for the film. My guess is that the tapes ended up lost in the process.
Of course, there are many more of Ifukube's scores that are lost or partially lost.
I just played the "Magnitude 7.9" suite. The music is indeed both powerful and beautiful, and a full release would be most welcome!
It's great, isn't it? There was an LP release of some of the music, but it wasn't the complete score. I seriously hope it'll be released in the near future.
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Thanks for starting the new thread.
During the Heisei series, Furtureland released, along with the regular versions, 2 CDs sets of the Godzilla scores. Seeing that I own all six Godzilla Perfect Collection sets, along with all of the one CD versions, should I seek out the double CD sets?
P.S. Keep up the good work. You guys are a fountain of knowledge.
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Feb 24, 2021 - 12:30 PM
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Ostinato
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Thanks for starting the new thread.
During the Heisei series, Furtureland released, along with the regular versions, 2 CDs sets of the Godzilla scores. Seeing that I own all six Godzilla Perfect Collection sets, along with all of the one CD versions, should I seek out the double CD sets?
P.S. Keep up the good work. You guys are a fountain of knowledge.
You're welcome!
Definitely go with Complete Recordings 9, 10 and 11. Also try to find the 2 disc Kitty Records release of "SpaceGodzilla". For "Godzilla" '84, "Biollante" and "King Ghidorah", the Perfect Collection releases of those scores are the best.
Oh, we'll definitely keep going!
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