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 Posted:   Jan 15, 2021 - 5:51 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

As for Tykwer and co, I like their music a lot so I will be interested to see what they bring to the table for this.

I haven't heard a lot from them. Lola Rennt of course, which is fantastic and demonstrative of fine electronics-driven action scoring. What would you say are their best scores?

 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2021 - 12:13 AM   
 By:   MD   (Member)

I still have hope that they will call Davis back for some sort of collaboration like it was on previous scores with Juno Reactor.



 
 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2021 - 1:17 AM   
 By:   Stalker Vigil   (Member)

This doesn't bode well for the quality of the film itself if they can't even get Davis onboard (or didn't try).

Davis likely bowed out when offered. He's only got two scores done in the last 14 years, so I think he's done with Hollywood and for all intents and purposes - the sequel movies weren't happy for a lot of the crew.


Was Davis even offered? If I recall correctly, an FSMer on a thread about Giacchino mentioned that Davis' score for Speed Racer was rejected by the Wachowskis and that seemed to have ended their partnership. Anyway, the first Matrix and V for Vendetta were the only two good films that the Wachowskis made. As for Tykwer and co, I like their music a lot so I will be interested to see what they bring to the table for this.


One of the reasons Davis had a break in movies is his work on opera Río de Sangre (and it was during the production of Speed Racer as far as I know). I don't think there is any reasons why they can't invite Davis back.

Anyway, let's wait for the official announcments.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2021 - 6:03 AM   
 By:   Smaug   (Member)

This doesn't bode well for the quality of the film itself if they can't even get Davis onboard (or didn't try).

Davis likely bowed out when offered. He's only got two scores done in the last 14 years, so I think he's done with Hollywood and for all intents and purposes - the sequel movies weren't happy for a lot of the crew.


Was Davis even offered? If I recall correctly, an FSMer on a thread about Giacchino mentioned that Davis' score for Speed Racer was rejected by the Wachowskis and that seemed to have ended their partnership. Anyway, the first Matrix and V for Vendetta were the only two good films that the Wachowskis made. As for Tykwer and co, I like their music a lot so I will be interested to see what they bring to the table for this.


One of the reasons Davis had a break in movies is his work on opera Río de Sangre (and it was during the production of Speed Racer as far as I know). I don't think there is any reasons why they can't invite Davis back.

Anyway, let's wait for the official announcments.


They were recording something in London a while ago and a violinist friend of mine working on it told me at that time that it wasn’t Davis. He does a lot of studio work and we laugh about how he gets paid for playing lots of whole notes. He would have liked a more interesting composer but right now they are just happy for any work they can get.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2021 - 7:43 AM   
 By:   Stalker Vigil   (Member)

They were recording something in London a while ago and a violinist friend of mine working on it told me at that time that it wasn’t Davis. He does a lot of studio work and we laugh about how he gets paid for playing lots of whole notes. He would have liked a more interesting composer but right now they are just happy for any work they can get.

But your friend didn't say what they exactly recording, didn't he? Sorry if I'm wrong.

 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2021 - 10:01 AM   
 By:   davefg   (Member)

As for Tykwer and co, I like their music a lot so I will be interested to see what they bring to the table for this.

I haven't heard a lot from them. Lola Rennt of course, which is fantastic and demonstrative of fine electronics-driven action scoring. What would you say are their best scores?


The three scores that I would rate highly are: Perfume: The Story of a Murderer (the only film score that I am aware of that was recorded by the Berliner Philharmoniker), Cloud Atlas (directed by The Wachowskis), and One Hour Photo.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2021 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

No Davis, huh? Oh boy, if they think the series' fans aren't gonna notice something's seriously off about the "feel" of the film…

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2021 - 1:56 PM   
 By:   Smaug   (Member)

No Davis, huh? Oh boy, if they think the series' fans aren't gonna notice something's seriously off about the "feel" of the film…

I have heard their music and it’s ok. We will wait and see. The only thing that won’t be acceptable for me is if they riff on the sound world that Davis created. It’s just the worst when they don’t hire someone and then say “do something like it.”

 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2021 - 11:57 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Confirmed by Film Music Reporter now

https://filmmusicreporter.com/2021/09/07/johnny-klimek-tom-tykwer-scoring-lana-wachowskis-the-matrix-resurrections/

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2021 - 2:18 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

Man, a new Matrix score from Don Davis was half the reason for this movie to even exist! I'm still interested in seeing what they do with this fourth one and I'm sure Klimek & Tykwer will give it their all, but this omission seriously dampens the excitement and nostalgia levels that could have been in play here.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2021 - 2:34 PM   
 By:   Mink   (Member)

No Davis = No Matrix

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2021 - 3:11 PM   
 By:   lonzoe1   (Member)

I wasn't anticipating this unecessary sequel, but Don Davis' involvement in the score would've gotten me somewhat interested. It's very unfortunate he isn't. So they're releasing a 4th Matrix movie with half of the Wachowski siblings involved and without Don Davis returning as composer. Yeah this sequel is pretty much DOA for me.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2021 - 3:25 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

I wasn't anticipating this unecessary sequel, but Don Davis' involvement in the score would've gotten me somewhat interested. It's very unfortunate he isn't. So they're releasing a 4th Matrix movie with half of the Wachowski siblings involved and without Don Davis returning as composer. Yeah this sequel is pretty much DOA for me.

It is a disappointment not getting both Wachowskis back on writing and directing duties, but at least there it was the creator's own choice not to return.

 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2021 - 7:36 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

While Davis will be missed (he is a master), Klimek and Tykwer are a fantastic music team and the sad-sack fest around this post makes me understand that most of you don't listen to much music outside of what I assume to be the same 10- 20 albums over and over again. I hope I'm wrong but I also hope you'd listen to their music from Perfume: Story of a Murderer, Cloud Atlas, Sense8, Babylon Berlin, or any other number of great projects they have under their belt. Tykwer is a well-respected German director as well, and has scored all of his own projects because of his passion for composition. Much of the music they have done for Wachowski projects seems to owe a debt of admiration of the sound which Davis himself gave towards John Adams.

https://youtu.be/UeBlQoGa_zM

 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2021 - 8:06 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

This track from Sense8 is another celebration of the John Adams sound that the Wachowskis clearly love.

https://youtu.be/XXIdSR71Osw

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2021 - 8:58 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

Davis created one of the most iconic sounds not only in the past twenty-five years but in all of film history and was inarguably an essential factor in the wild success of the first Matrix film and its two sequels. Expressing disappointment or bafflement over his absence from the new Matrix film does not mean anyone here is uncultured or closed-minded. It only means that we recognize Davis' greatness and his contributions to film music history and are disappointed there won't be a fourth Matrix score from him when there could be. Would it not have been baffling had Williams not been asked back for The Empire Strikes Back or The Phantom Menace? If he hadn't been and someone had said well that's a baffling decision would it mean they don't have a big enough film music library? C'mon, that's just silly.

 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2021 - 9:14 PM   
 By:   spanosdm   (Member)

Do we know if Davis was asked? Maybe HE passed on the project for whatever reason.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2021 - 12:17 AM   
 By:   AdoKrycha007   (Member)

It's a joke.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2021 - 12:34 AM   
 By:   Randy Watson   (Member)

It's a joke.

Nah, then they would've hired Brian Tyler wink

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2021 - 12:45 AM   
 By:   AdoKrycha007   (Member)

Nah, he doesn't need another shitty remake.

 
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