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No CD sadly. Even Picard never got a CD.
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The work of McCarthy, Chattaway, Bell, etc is light years better then whats been done on Discovery and Picard. I just dont feel the same about it. Unlike the Berman era shows, none of this music sticks with me or resonates.
Agreed but try Chris Westlake's work on Lower Decks...it IMO is lightyears better than most of what McCarthy/Chattaway/etc. were allowed to do by Berman. It is practically Ron Jones level.
Yavar
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The work of McCarthy, Chattaway, Bell, etc is light years better then whats been done on Discovery and Picard. I just dont feel the same about it. Unlike the Berman era shows, none of this music sticks with me or resonates.
Agreed but try Chris Westlake's work on Lower Decks...it IMO is lightyears better than most of what McCarthy/Chattaway/etc. were allowed to do by Berman. It is practically Ron Jones level.
Yavar
You and Ron Jones. For real. When will it end. The guy deserved the pink slip. He’s a pain in the butt and not easy to work with but oh hey, he gave us Heart of Glory, a crappy score for a crappy character episode (Worf) in a crappy season (one) of The Next Generation.
McCarthy was the bomb.
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You and Ron Jones. For real. When will it end. The guy deserved the pink slip. He’s a pain in the butt and not easy to work with but oh hey, he gave us Heart of Glory, a crappy score for a crappy character episode (Worf) in a crappy season (one) of The Next Generation.
McCarthy was the bomb.
I think McCarthy scored bad episodes too.
No doubt but he was good when he did it.
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No doubt but he was good when he did it.
Have you watched 'Shades of Gray'? He's the only person who worked on that episode that's putting any kind of effort in selling the premise.
Yeah that’s a score I listen to all of the time. I mean, are you kidding me?
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You and Ron Jones. For real. When will it end.
ME and Ron Jones? You do realize that I'm far from alone in preferring his more interesting, less generic and "background" Berman style for the TV franchise, right? I mean, he's literally had *every note* of his music for The Next Generation released, thanks to Lukas Kendall (you know, the guy who founded FSM the magazine, FSM the record label, and this FSM message board?) There's a reason why that is, and why there will never be a complete set of Dennis McCarthy or Jay Chattaway's music for the series. "When will it end"? Lol.
The guy deserved the pink slip. He’s a pain in the butt and not easy to work with but oh hey, he gave us Heart of Glory, a crappy score for a crappy character episode (Worf) in a crappy season (one) of The Next Generation.
"Heart of Glory" isn't a great episode or anything but it was important to the development of modern Klingons for sure. Not sure why you apparently hate the score, though it wouldn't make my Ron Jones top 10 out of the 42 he wrote for the series. It certainly is interesting that you ignore the multiple good episodes he brilliantly scored in favor of a random season one entry you apparently have a bizarre vendetta of some kind against.
I mean, even in season one can you deny the brilliance of "11001001"? His absolutely gorgeous cue for the arrival at Spacedock in particular? And that was one of the best season one episodes.
McCarthy was the bomb.
McCarthy did some fine work but toned down his style after season one like the producers wanted. Just like Jay Chattaway who started off with the wonderful "Tin Man" score and then was soon made to blandify his style. Only Ron Jones was "pain in the butt" enough to buck those instructions, for which yes he did eventually lose the gig. That just makes him a modern Bernard Herrmann...and I wish we had more of those!
Yavar
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I completely agree. Ron Jones' music for TNG was top notch.
But as a whole the 'canon' of ST music is a mess; something to which Ron Jones is also at fault to some extend.
Unlike Star Wars there is no leidmotivic coherence to be found.
For me The Motion Picture set the bar of what Star Trek music is supposed to sound like. It's leidmotivs are very clear but the 'bad guy' music for V'Ger remains ambigues so as to not dictate to the audience what to feel.
Jerry Goldsmith introduced - out the top of my head - 6 themes (the March, the Klingon theme, the Federation theme, the Vulcan Theme, the V'Ger Theme and Ilia's Theme). Besides the March - and a loose adaptation of the Klingon theme to some extend - none of the other themes appeared in any of Jones' subsequent episodes. (Citing the V'Ger, Ilia and Vulcan material would be innappropriate of course but a the use of the Federation Theme would have been a cool one.)
Although I quitte like Jones' music as standalone listening experiences I never really understood why he had to write a new theme for Data every time instead of just sticking to one.
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