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 Posted:   Oct 26, 2020 - 9:36 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Or a disclaimer track to start every Wagner CD stating his political affiliation.

I'm totally good with that!

 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2020 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Or a disclaimer track to start every Wagner CD stating his political affiliation.

I'm totally good with that!


Sometimes ignorance is bliss. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2020 - 9:59 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah...

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2020 - 10:16 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

I think most people understand this. Again they're stroking their own ego by treating the rest of us like children. Following their logic we should have warnings in front of Superman, "Don't attempt to jump off your roof. You cannot fly." Or warnings in front of John Wick, " Don't fire guns at people, you could kill someone." Its not necessary. Next will have disclaimers in front of every classic novel. Or a disclaimer track to start every Wagner CD stating his political affiliation.

Do not spill boiling hot coffee between your legs

 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2020 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

But what about the "Bag O' Glass", et al?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2020 - 10:22 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah...

Lol. Sometimes we have to cut through the b.s.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2020 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

I think most people understand this. Again they're stroking their own ego by treating the rest of us like children. Following their logic we should have warnings in front of Superman, "Don't attempt to jump off your roof. You cannot fly." Or warnings in front of John Wick, " Don't fire guns at people, you could kill someone." Its not necessary. Next will have disclaimers in front of every classic novel. Or a disclaimer track to start every Wagner CD stating his political affiliation.

Does anyone remember the pre-episode straight-to-camera stuff with West and Ward in the days of Batman '66 where they actually said "we cannot fly" (so please don't jump out of windows etc.)? Absolutely sure they happened, though my memory here is actually from the time.

 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2020 - 8:12 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I think most people understand this. Again they're stroking their own ego by treating the rest of us like children. Following their logic we should have warnings in front of Superman, "Don't attempt to jump off your roof. You cannot fly." Or warnings in front of John Wick, " Don't fire guns at people, you could kill someone." Its not necessary. Next will have disclaimers in front of every classic novel. Or a disclaimer track to start every Wagner CD stating his political affiliation.

Does anyone remember the pre-episode straight-to-camera stuff with West and Ward in the days of Batman '66 where they actually said "we cannot fly" (so please don't jump out of windows etc.)? Absolutely sure they happened, though my memory here is actually from the time.


I don't recall anything like that. I watched the series a lot in the early 70's.
I DO remember a story where a mom tried to sue the network that broadcast The Adventures of Superman because her kid thought he could fly and jumped off the roof of his house.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2020 - 9:28 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

As others have noted, it’s in part simply a way for companies to take responsibility for and acknowledge offensive content in their earlier works while keeping their films intact. Especially with respect to content purposed toward young children, which seems to be the case with all the examples mentioned in this article, it’s good to acknowledge these things and a better alternative in most instances than outright censorship (censorship is a dangerous road to start down, though I’ll say I am very grateful for the edits made to Fantasia). True, an adult should be able to have the same conversation with a child, but again this is probably more about the companies themselves acknowledging the content.

 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2020 - 10:17 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

The spinning wheel that keeps on pricking.

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

I'm not that much against warnings, much better than outright bans, but they need to start simply saying these things were made in less enlightened times.

Won't there come a time where we will know this without being told every five fucking minutes?

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 7:21 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Honestly instead of a hundred different messages arbitrarily put on hundreds of different films and television shows I say just make one short statement and put it in front of everything like the old FBI warnings in front of the VHS videos. It's annoying but if we have to endure this at least do that.

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 7:25 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

This isn't new. They've been doing this stuff for years and years. I have an old original DVD release of Pinocchio that starts the movie with an anti-smoking PSA (since there is smoking on Pleasure Island). Tons of releases of old cartoons (Looney Tunes, etc.) have done the same thing re: old racism.

I'm all for it. It teaches kids the historical context that the things were made in without shelving things (Song of the South) or hacking things apart (Fantasia).

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 7:29 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

Honestly instead of a hundred different messages arbitrarily put on hundreds of different films and television shows I say just make one short statement and put it in front of everything like the old FBI warnings in front of the VHS videos. It's annoying but if we have to endure this at least do that.

Or a symbol like the "sad onion" sign on the box. A snowflake with a line through it.

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 7:30 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

This isn't new. They've been doing this stuff for years and years. I have an old original DVD release of Pinocchio that starts the movie with an anti-smoking PSA (since there is smoking on Pleasure Island).


WHAAAAAT?! Pretty sure I've owned Pinocchio in every format other than laser disc. Never seen that.

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 7:30 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Honestly instead of a hundred different messages arbitrarily put on hundreds of different films and television shows I say just make one short statement and put it in front of everything like the old FBI warnings in front of the VHS videos. It's annoying but if we have to endure this at least do that.

Or a symbol like the "sad onion" sign on the box. A snowflake with a line through it.


LOL!

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 7:35 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

This isn't new. They've been doing this stuff for years and years. I have an old original DVD release of Pinocchio that starts the movie with an anti-smoking PSA (since there is smoking on Pleasure Island).


WHAAAAAT?! Pretty sure I've owned Pinocchio in every format other than laser disc. Never seen that.


I don't believe it's even buried in the previews. I think it autoplays when you hit Play Movie.

(again, I think it's fine)

Found it on YouTube, I believe. https://youtu.be/qUDktmuuPX8

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2020 - 7:44 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

This isn't new. They've been doing this stuff for years and years. I have an old original DVD release of Pinocchio that starts the movie with an anti-smoking PSA (since there is smoking on Pleasure Island).


WHAAAAAT?! Pretty sure I've owned Pinocchio in every format other than laser disc. Never seen that.


I don't believe it's even buried in the previews. I think it autoplays when you hit Play Movie.

(again, I think it's fine)

Found it on YouTube, I believe. https://youtu.be/qUDktmuuPX8


I have no recollection of that. Could be Ive just forgotten.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2021 - 6:59 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

Wasn’t sure where to put this, but Disney has censored Make Mine Music (again) for its Movie Club Exclusive Blu-ray. A conversation between a customer and a representative shows that the censoring was deliberate. (Last post on the page below)

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=343098&page=22

Fortunately, an HD version of the uncut film can be found on Internet Archive (see it while you can!). Even with this temporary remedy, this situation is just another frustrating example of the company’s blatant hypocrisy.

https://archive.org/details/make-mine-music-1946-720p-hd

 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2021 - 9:24 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Wasn’t sure where to put this, but Disney has censored Make Mine Music (again) for its Movie Club Exclusive Blu-ray. A conversation with a conversation between a customer and a representative shows that the censoring was deliberate. (Last post on the page below)

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=343098&page=22

Fortunately, an HD version of the uncut film can be found on Internet Archive (see it while you can!). Even with this temporary remedy, this situation is just another frustrating example of the company’s blatant hypocrisy.

https://archive.org/details/make-mine-music-1946-720p-hd


Thanks for the alert. (I'm downloading the uncensored version asap!)

I can't even begin to describe the rage I feel over this corporate censorship. I was so looking forward to this release along with Melody Time. Never in my wildest dreams did I think I'd live to see such a radical authoritarian streak spread across our culture.

mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad

 
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