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 Posted:   Oct 22, 2020 - 2:47 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Perhaps Bob Gale should not waste his time presuming what we, the audience, would want to see.

To be fair, he’s probably right that seeing a 60 year old Marty McFly with Parkinson’s behind the wheel of the Flying Delorean would be either tactlessly funny or horribly depressing and not really the feel good adventure the original trilogy was.



I can respect that, but in a sense that's almost defending Gale's infinitely one-dimensional notion that MJF behind the wheel, etc., was the ONLY thing MJF would be in the movie for.
I would imagine there are plenty of potential storylines that could involve a 60-year-old Marty.
Gale's apparently-sudden lack of imagination sells both Michael J. Fox and the audience short (assuming Fox would even want to do another film).

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2020 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Exactly, that's what I just said earlier in the thread (I might be on Scott McOldsmith's ignore list). Who says that Marty should appear exactly as he did in the old films? A good writer will accomodate his current situation to whatever scenario is suitable.

 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2020 - 3:36 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Have any of you lived or worked with people with Parkinson's disease? I have. You're just assuming returning for an acting gig would be a piece of cake. "So he's very ill, will work around it!" Not at all considering the physical, emotional and medical hardships he would have to endure so he can "entertain" us. Addl comments deleted by Mods - no political statements please.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2020 - 3:45 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Have any of you lived or worked with people with Parkinson's disease? I have. You're just assuming returning for an acting gig would be a piece of cake. "So he's very ill, will work around it!" Not at all considering the physical, emotional and medical hardships he would have to endure so he can "entertain" us.


Exactly--which is why I pointed out in parenthesis that Fox may not even want to do another film.
It's also probably very likely that no insurance company would cover his participation in it, even if.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2020 - 4:16 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I love all the BACK TO THE FUTURE films so much, I can see both sides of the debate. BTW, I bought from amazon the 4K set with an actual mini hoverboard replica that hovers, it's pretty cool.smile

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2020 - 1:33 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Have any of you lived or worked with people with Parkinson's disease? I have. You're just assuming returning for an acting gig would be a piece of cake. "So he's very ill, will work around it!" Not at all considering the physical, emotional and medical hardships he would have to endure so he can "entertain" us.

Well, Fox has appeared in bits and pieces since his diagnosis - cameos or small roles. So he hasn't retired, and seems interested in appearing in things he can manage. Something like that could work in a new BTTF film too. So even though you may have worked with people with Parkinson's, I don't believe it's up to you to say what Fox wants to do or not.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2020 - 3:50 AM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)

Thor - i'm very much in Cheers mode here..

I love ya. I usually agree with a lot of what you say.

But sometimes you don't need to bring things back. Sometimes the story is done. The chemistry that worked 30 years ago is no more. The cinema magic is gone.

I cringed seeing Harrison play both Indiana and Han way past his prime. That's not what I want to see nor remember.

I remember watching BTTF as a teenager and wanting to be Marty. I remember hearing that magnificent Alan Silvestri score. The hope. The optimism. I remember watching this film and not wanting it to end but knowing it had to.

I don't want to see the reality of a broken down Marty. I don't care about what happens in the future. For me, BTTF could (and should) have finished after the first film.


 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2020 - 3:54 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Well, Rick, in one way I'm with you. I don't NEED to see another BTTF film. I'm perfectly fine with the existing trilogy, and won't be disappointed if that's all we'll ever have. But I'm not vehemently opposed to more films either, like some seem to be. If it's a universe I love, I welcome more additions that can explore that particular universe further. Like with the ALIEN movies.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2020 - 4:03 AM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)

The Alien universe has a lot to explore (I'm not that much of a fan so I'm only going by stuff I have read) so I understand that you are happy to see more movies in that....universe.

I see BTTF as being in a very small particular universe with characters we all love and remember. Who had their character arcs. No need to explore that any more.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2020 - 6:48 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I see BTTF as being in a very small particular universe with characters we all love and remember. Who had their character arcs. No need to explore that any more.

Well, I obviously don't have the obsessive relationship to the BTTF universe as I do ALIEN, but I have to admit it was immensely pleasurable to walk around in the Hill Valley area -- all the places from the films -- in the BTTF video game from Telltale some years ago. So I clearly desired more "untold" BTTF than I thought.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2020 - 7:04 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

Exactly, that's what I just said earlier in the thread (I might be on Scott McOldsmith's ignore list).

No, sir, you're not on that very short list. How could I put on ignore one of the very few people who loves both Alien 3 and Jurassic Park III as much as I do?

I agree that MJF wouldn't have to be behind the wheel, but seeing the plucky hero of the original trilogy ravaged by Parkinsons would still be awfully depressing to me. Almost as much as having Madlyn Rhue suffering from MS in Star Trek II.

Sometimes you just gotta say "nope" and enjoy the memories. And considering how hard the disease is on people, especially in such an advanced stage, who knows how easy it is for Fox to work.

The trilogy is a great little saga on its own. Like Indiana Jones, I don't think Part 4 would never live up to expectations.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2020 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   Moonlit   (Member)

Well, Rick, in one way I'm with you. I don't NEED to see another BTTF film. I'm perfectly fine with the existing trilogy, and won't be disappointed if that's all we'll ever have. But I'm not vehemently opposed to more films either, like some seem to be. If it's a universe I love, I welcome more additions that can explore that particular universe further. Like with the ALIEN movies.

Something about David and the initial genesis, but aside from that what has Alien done? That's sorta like saying the Star Wars universe has accomplished something since Return of the Jedi.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2020 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Something about David and the initial genesis, but aside from that what has Alien done? That's sorta like saying the Star Wars universe has accomplished something since Return of the Jedi.

That's a whole new topic, better served in a new thread. If it happens, though -- be warned. I'm EXTREMELY passionate about the topic.

 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2020 - 8:01 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Well, Rick, in one way I'm with you. I don't NEED to see another BTTF film. I'm perfectly fine with the existing trilogy, and won't be disappointed if that's all we'll ever have. But I'm not vehemently opposed to more films either, like some seem to be. If it's a universe I love, I welcome more additions that can explore that particular universe further. Like with the ALIEN movies.

Something about David and the initial genesis, but aside from that what has Alien done? That's sorta like saying the Star Wars universe has accomplished something since Return of the Jedi.


David? Genesis? Is that not ST2 TWOK?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2020 - 10:26 PM   
 By:   Moonlit   (Member)

Well, Rick, in one way I'm with you. I don't NEED to see another BTTF film. I'm perfectly fine with the existing trilogy, and won't be disappointed if that's all we'll ever have. But I'm not vehemently opposed to more films either, like some seem to be. If it's a universe I love, I welcome more additions that can explore that particular universe further. Like with the ALIEN movies.

Something about David and the initial genesis, but aside from that what has Alien done? That's sorta like saying the Star Wars universe has accomplished something since Return of the Jedi.


David? Genesis? Is that not ST2 TWOK?


I don't understand the question.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2020 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   Nils   (Member)

David? Genesis? Is that not ST2 TWOK?

I don't understand the question.


David Marcus was a central character in Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan, in which the Genesis Planet was an important plot point.

 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2020 - 8:11 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

David? Genesis? Is that not ST2 TWOK?

I don't understand the question.


David Marcus was a central character in Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan, in which the Genesis Planet was an important plot point.


This.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2020 - 8:58 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

David Marcus was single-handedly responsible for the 23rd century resurgence of tying the sleeves of your sweater around your neck.
For this we will always be grateful.

 
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