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 Posted:   Sep 24, 2020 - 3:01 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

It's weird, but although I absolutely love 'Indiana Wants Me' (first heard when my little youngster ears caught it emanating from my older brothers bedroom and vividly saw the movie unfolding in the songs lyrics and sound FX), none of his other songs come close to that songs brilliance for me.
I Gotta See Jane and There's A Ghost In My House are okay, I suppose, and Woman Alive recalls Indiana.., but wow, he never ever got close to the sheer excellence of his biggest hit song.
Lightning in a bottle maybe (or is it all down to the power of my first, young exposure to that first song I heard)?

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2020 - 4:01 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

"Indiana Wants Me" is another of those depressing, spiritually-adrift one-hit wonder songs which populated the early '70s. After the crap of the 1960s--which damaged Boomers would bizarrely fetishize in subsequent decades--everyone seemed burned out and shot to hell--no group better personified this feeling than Creedence Clearwater Revival-- but it was wonderfully, depressingly reflected in a lot of the pop music of the time.

Such inward-searching music would give way to glam rock in the UK and disco over here, as superficial styles are great coping mechanisms for traumatized populations. Hey, I sound like Willie McCrum!

Did "It Never Rains in Southern California" ever darken UK shores? It has the same kind of sad, visual appeal as "Indiana." I think the son of a bitch who sang "California" was an English bloke, making his fish-out-of-water tune all the more bleak.



Okay, I've expressed the living hell out of myself here; now watch McGann abandon his own thread and watch the sci-fi sentimentalists ignore it like a homeless person on a busy city street.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2020 - 4:47 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

"Not So Fast...Count"
Like the dog returneth to its vomit, I do vaguely remember that S. California song, but from later times. I don't know how much of a hit it was in the UK charts, or if at all. I musta been out that day.
During 1969 to 1974 (between my ages 4-9) if one of my brothers or sisters wasn't blasting it out of their bedrooms*, I probably stuck to my gimmick records like Bloody Red Baron and Ernie (the fastest milkman).
I remember a brothers girlfriend giving me the LP's for T-Rex (T-Rex) and Queen (A Day At The Races) which started my music love proper. And my fateful meeting with John Williams was just around the corner (Jaws End Title...then...da dahhhh...Star Wars) wink

*with so many differing tastes from my siblings, that's were I first fell in love with stuff such as Cat Stevens, David Bowie, James Tayor, Motown, David Cassidy, The Osmonds, Mike Oldfield, Nilsson (amo, like the ads used to say).

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2020 - 7:15 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Indiana Wants Me comes from that 'mini-movie-in-a-song genre', that were quite popular in the 70s.
Songs like Coward Of The County by Kinnie Rogers and Billy Don't Be A Hero by Paper Lace, told a tale, from start to finish, during their 3-5 minute run time.
Cheesy as hell, but enjoyable nonetheless.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2020 - 7:25 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I grew to love that early '70s stuff later; even if it felt like it was done eons ago, even by 1979. Like how an episode of "The Brady Bunch" feels worlds away from an episode of "Diff'rent Strokes" (don't think those played over in Old Blighty, or did they?).

Your list of childhood favorites reminds me of how film and TV music became such a big deal for me. I was but a wee lad in the mid-to-late '70s, but I can remember disliking "kiddie" music and of course all that "sophisticated" adult contemporary/lite FM rock of the period.

I also never went in for the teen idols of the day, and it wasn't until film and TV music that I found the kind of music in which I felt I belonged. I was quite young; 5 years old, so you can imagine how "cool" I must have seemed to my schoolmates. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2020 - 9:23 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I remember Different Strokes being shown on UK telly around tea-time (between 4-6pm) cos I used to watch it after school (what you talkin about Willis).
I don't think the Brady Bunch ever got shown though. I've certainly got no knowledge or memory of it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2020 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Indiana Wants Me comes from that 'mini-movie-in-a-song genre', that were quite popular in the 70s.
Songs like Coward Of The County by Kinnie Rogers and Billy Don't Be A Hero by Paper Lace, told a tale, from start to finish, during their 3-5 minute run time.
Cheesy as hell, but enjoyable nonetheless.


Apart from having a cinematic quality, I've always appreciated these songs for their desolate sadness--naturally, I love this stuff. wink

The aforementioned "Indiana Wants Me", "It Never Rains in Southern California", "Billy Don't Be a Hero", "Last Song" "A Horse with No Name", "Sunshine", and a dozen more I could list but won't because I'll only be talking to myself. This era is a bit of an obsession of mine. wink I go on at length about in the "Harry Chapin Taxi" thread.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2020 - 10:17 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Were the pop band Three Dog Night popular in the UK? For a few years in the early '70s, they were quite a chart presence here in the States.

Anyway, I've decided that the FSM Board can best be described through the songs of Three Dog Night.

Finding FSM: "Shambala"- "Everyone is helpful/everyone is kind/on the road to Shambala..."

The rot of FSM sets in: "Mama Told Me Not to Come"- "I've seen so many things I ain't never seen before/Don't know what it is - I don't wanna see no more/Mama told me not to come/Mama told me not to come/She said "That ain't the way to have fun, son"/That ain't the way to have fun, no"

Thread You Started Flops Realization: "One"- "One is the loneliest number that you'll ever do/two can be as bad as one/it's the loneliest number since the number one."

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 12:58 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Mama Told Me Not To Come was deffo a hit in the UK charts.
It's a song I remember one of my brothers playing in our house of olde.
It was probably my first exposure to Randy Newman (obviously unbeknownst to me at the time).

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2020 - 4:47 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

That was Randy Newman? It has his cynical touch.

Here in the US, Newman would later hit it big with the "controversial" song "Short People."

Randy Newman, along with Warren Zevon have/had such great wit. I miss quirky, eccentric singer-songwriters like that.

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2020 - 3:55 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Your fellow Liverpool FC supporter Thomas mentioned Albert Hammond's "Free Electric Band" in yesterday's impromptu "Cheers!" meet up, so I gave it a listen. It definitely fits in with that wonderfully-depressing, fragmented early '70s singer-songwriter era.



I'd never heard of anything of Hammond's except the aforementioned "It Never Rains...", which I hold in high regard. There are other Americans in the comments section in the above video who have heard "Free Electric Band", so it must be another early '70s song that hasn't benefitted from subsequent airplay.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2020 - 5:46 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Thanks Jim (and Thomas).
Strangely enough, I do know that song from somewhere in the dark recesses of my mispent youth.
Is this thread to become the poor, lonely poster child for anguished 70s storybook rock? wink

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2020 - 7:58 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Since you've added the "sad sap" subtitle...

"Last Song"- Edward Bear

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2020 - 8:02 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Indians were very big during this period.

In addition to "Indiana Wants Me," in which the geographical location has the word "Indian" at its root, you have:

"Indian Reservation" - Mark Lindsay
"Half Breed" - Cher
"Indian Lake" - the Cowsills

Others?

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2020 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Wasn't "Come and Get Your Love" composed and performed by "Redbone", a Native American band?

Does that count?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2020 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Wasn't "Come and Get Your Love" composed and performed by "Redbone", a Native American band?

Does that count?


Sure!

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2020 - 8:08 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Is this thread to become the poor, lonely poster child for anguished 70s storybook rock? wink

"Alone Again (Naturally)"- Gilbert O'Sullivan



The anthem of this subgenre, and of most FSMers.

 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2020 - 5:30 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Harry Chapin- "Cat's in the Cradle"



The album cover looks like Harry's saying, "I want YOU to be just like me!"

"Mah boy. Was. Just. Like. Me."

...and of course the crushing irony no one knew was coming:

"What I'd really like dad is to borrow the car keys. See you later can I have them, please?"

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2020 - 5:39 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Cat's In The Cradle!! Classic Stuff Jim.
I've got that track on a soundtrack album lying around somewhere (can't remember which one*).
Quality.

*a quick Google search tells me I have it on the Shrek The Third OST.

 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2020 - 6:16 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

The topic of Billy Joel came up in the chat--I never thought he was popular in the UK--and while I freely admit to liking many of his songs, I don't consider him a great artist, but he does pastiche really well.

"James"

 
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