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 Posted:   Jul 7, 2020 - 12:40 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I know its a proof of concept, but considering the cost for such missions and the time between missions I wish the helicopter had a camera on board. The icing on the cake would be to get some aerial shots of Mars terrain. I wonder if this thing can fly in the thin Martian atmosphere?

The link below shows how it will deploy from underneath the Mars Rover Perseverance.

Story:

NASA's Perseverance rover will have a special passenger when it alights inside Mars' Jezero Crater in February 2021 — the first helicopter ever to fly on another world.

The 4-lb. (1.8 kilograms) chopper, named Ingenuity, will ride to Mars on Perseverance's belly, squeezing into a spot that offers roughly 24 inches (61 centimeters) of ground clearance, including the helicopter delivery system. Ingenuity itself is only 5 inches (12 cm) shorter than the clearance area.

"The deployment process begins with the release of a locking mechanism that keeps the helicopter in place," JPL officials wrote in the statement. "Then a cable-cutting pyrotechnic device fires, allowing a spring-loaded arm that holds the helicopter to begin rotating Ingenuity out of its horizontal position. Along the way, a small electric motor will pull the arm until it latches, bringing the helicopter body completely vertical with two of its spring-loaded landing legs deployed. Another pyrotechnic fires, releasing the other legs."

During this process, the deployment system will maintain electrical and data connections between Perseverance and Ingenuity until it's time to let the helicopter loose. The plan is to gently drop Ingenuity to the surface and to have Perseverance drive away, allowing Ingenuity to charge its batteries with a solar panel. Then, if all goes to plan, it will be time to do a few test flights.



Source:
https://www.space.com/nasa-mars-2020-mission-helicopter-ingenuity.html

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2020 - 12:44 PM   
 By:   Xebec   (Member)

Fingers crossed something comes of this.

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2020 - 12:48 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Umm, I just thought of a big concern! What if the payload doesn't fully deploy? Then the Rover has this unwanted baggage stuck underneath its belly. It could hinder the Rovers clearance while exploring the terrain. Worse yet if it only partially deploys it might end up dragging underneath the Rover which could lead to the main vehicle getting stuck in place. It might not be able to move at all and you'll end up with two useless packages .

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2020 - 10:40 PM   
 By:   spiderich   (Member)

I know its a proof of concept, but considering the cost for such missions and the time between missions I wish the helicopter had a camera on board. The icing on the cake would be to get some aerial shots of Mars terrain. I wonder if this thing can fly in the thin Martian atmosphere?


[cough]


https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=116861&forumID=7&archive=0

Posted: May 20, 2018 - 10:32 AM
By: solium (Member)

NASA Mars Helicopter Technology Demonstration:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOMQOqKRWjU

"The Mars Helicopter is a technology demonstration that will travel to the Red Planet with the Mars 2020 rover. It will attempt controlled flight in Mars' thin atmosphere, which may enable more ambitious missions in the future".

Cool!

Richard G.


It's about time.


Richard G. smile

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2020 - 2:27 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

The Martian Chronicles. Waiting for the day when a pointy thing lands upright on the surface.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2020 - 6:34 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

@ spiderich - Haha! Obviously totally forgot about that thread though I participated heavily in it.

 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2020 - 2:05 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

Did not find a discussion about the physics of flying a helicopter in the thinner atmosphere of Mars. I would have thought NASA might be talkative regarding how they overcame flight issues previously often cited regarding Mars.

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2020 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

This video covers everything about the Mars helicopter and answers basically every question from a scientific standpoint. NASA to no surprise does top notch testing and research. I feel confident this drone will work and operate as planned.


 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2020 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

That was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks Solium.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2020 - 7:04 PM   
 By:   spiderich   (Member)

This video covers everything about the Mars helicopter and answers basically every question from a scientific standpoint. NASA to no surprise does top notch testing and research. I feel confident this drone will work and operate as planned.

Good stuff!

Richard G.

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2020 - 6:38 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

NASA powers up Ingenuity Mars helicopter in space for the 1st time.

"NASA's Mars helicopter, named Ingenuity, successfully powered up for the first time in space last week.

Ingenuity is the first helicopter designed to fly on another planet. It is currently traveling to the Red Planet aboard NASA's Mars 2020 Perseverance rover, which launched on July 30.

On Aug. 7, the helicopter's six lithium-ion batteries were powered up and charged for the first time in space. The 4-lb. (1.8 kilograms) Ingenuity, which is currently stowed beneath Perseverance's belly, receives its charge from the rover's power supply, according to a Thursday (Aug. 13) statement from NASA."

Source: https://www.space.com/nasa-powers-up-ingenuity-mars-helicopter.html

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2020 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Send in Joe...with kung-fu grip!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2020 - 1:01 AM   
 By:   staceybecker   (Member)

NASA powers up Ingenuity Mars helicopter in space for the 1st time.

"NASA's Mars helicopter, named Ingenuity, successfully powered up for the first time in space last week.

Ingenuity is the first helicopter designed to fly on another planet. It is currently traveling to the Red Planet aboard NASA's Mars 2020 Perseverance rover, which launched on July 30.

On Aug. 7, the helicopter's six lithium-ion batteries were powered up and charged for the first time in space. The 4-lb. (1.8 kilograms) Ingenuity, which is currently stowed beneath Perseverance's belly, receives its charge from the rover's power supply, according to a Thursday (Aug. 13) statement from NASA."

Source: https://www.space.com/nasa-powers-up-ingenuity-mars-helicopter.html
https://pngtoico.io


I wonder how big the blades are? The atmosphere of Mars is way thinner than of Earth.

 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2020 - 7:07 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

NASA powers up Ingenuity Mars helicopter in space for the 1st time.

"NASA's Mars helicopter, named Ingenuity, successfully powered up for the first time in space last week.

Ingenuity is the first helicopter designed to fly on another planet. It is currently traveling to the Red Planet aboard NASA's Mars 2020 Perseverance rover, which launched on July 30.

On Aug. 7, the helicopter's six lithium-ion batteries were powered up and charged for the first time in space. The 4-lb. (1.8 kilograms) Ingenuity, which is currently stowed beneath Perseverance's belly, receives its charge from the rover's power supply, according to a Thursday (Aug. 13) statement from NASA."

Source: https://www.space.com/nasa-powers-up-ingenuity-mars-helicopter.html
https://pngtoico.io


I wonder how big the blades are? The atmosphere of Mars is way thinner than of Earth.


Everything is explained in the video I posted on Jul 17, 2020 - 12:47 PM. The blades will be spinning much faster than helicopters blades on earth.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2021 - 7:12 PM   
 By:   spiderich   (Member)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamiecartereurope/2021/02/06/its-new-years-day-on-mars-and-the-red-planet-is-about-to-get-3-visitors-from-earth/

"After a seven-month journey from Earth three major missions will this arrive at Mars and go into orbit around the “red planet.” They are—in chronological order of when they’ll arrive:


Tuesday, February 9, 2021: Emirates Mars Mission (EMM) to Mars

EMM is carrying a probe called Hope, a Mars orbiter was developed by the UAE. After enduring a nerve-wracking 27-minute “dark half-hour” orbital insertion from 7:00 p.m. UAE time (10:00 a.m. EST/7:00 a.m. PST) it will enter orbit and begin studying the Martian atmosphere in late 2021.

It aims to build the first full picture of Mars’ climate throughout an entire Martian year, which has never been done before. It’s the UAE’s first space mission, and it mark’s the country’s 50th anniversary.


Wednesday, February 10, 2021: China’s Tianwen-1 mission to Mars

The China National Space Administration (CNSA) will beat NASA to Mars when Tianwen-1 enters orbit. Like NASA’s Mars 2020 mission, Tianwen-1 has a Mars rover, which will use a radar to search for water. However, that rover won’t descend to the Martian surface until May 2021.

If that’s successful then China will become the second country to successfully land a rover on Mars. Tianwen-1 means “questions to heaven.”


Thursday, February 18, 2021: NASA’s Mars 2020 mission to Mars

NASA’s Perseverance rover is targeted to land in Jezero crater on Mars on February 18, 2021 at approximately 12:55 p.m. PST/3:55 p.m. EST. It will also last for at least one Martian year.

All three spacecraft will have to take critical manoeuvres to slow down as they approach Mars, from around 75,000 mph to just 11,000 mph. Go too fast? Miss Mars. Go too slow? Crash into Mars. It’s going to be tense."

Lots of action this month!

Richard G.

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2021 - 7:17 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I'm so excited! Sadly I'll be working the day each mission arrives at Mars. I've seen every Mars landing live since Pathfinder in 1997. I won't see these live.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2021 - 9:05 PM   
 By:   Xebec   (Member)

Cool. I'll have to try and remember to follow these.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2021 - 4:08 AM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

I wonder if this thing can fly in the thin Martian atmosphere?

If Mars has something that can be spied on, exploited, oppressed or all of those, you bet your hiney corporations will make that bastard fly.

D.S.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2021 - 4:32 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Thursday, February 18, 2021: NASA’s Mars 2020 mission to Mars

NASA’s Perseverance rover is targeted to land in Jezero crater on Mars on February 18, 2021 at approximately 12:55 p.m. PST/3:55 p.m. EST. It will also last for at least one Martian year.

All three spacecraft will have to take critical manoeuvres to slow down as they approach Mars, from around 75,000 mph to just 11,000 mph. Go too fast? Miss Mars. Go too slow? Crash into Mars. It’s going to be tense."


Wait, what? Only 10 days untill we hopefully get aerial drone shots of Mars?

 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2021 - 4:52 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

I wonder if this thing can fly in the thin Martian atmosphere?

If Mars has something that can be spied on, exploited, oppressed or all of those, you bet your hiney corporations will make that bastard fly.

D.S.


Uh... rocks?

 
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