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 Posted:   Jul 7, 2020 - 9:01 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Ms. Birri and I watched this slice of mid-70s schlock last night.

It was an interesting hybrid of the Satanic horror and a 70s highway chase genres.

It was kind of a waste casting Angelique in a film with Satan worshippers and having her play the victim rather than one of the witches.

It was also nice to see Angelique in a bathing suit.

Any fans of this film?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2020 - 9:42 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Angelique from Dark Shadows? Lara Parker? I forgot she was in it. Mind you, I haven't seen it since about 1977. Very fond memories of it, what remain of them. Of the cast I was always fascinated by the presence of Warren Oates especially, a terrific actor. On the whole it's probably on a par with THE DEVIL'S RAIN (Ernest Borgnine, William Shatner, Ida Lupino, even John Travolta). Have you seen that one?

RACE WITH THE DEVIL has the added advantage of a great score by Leonard Rosenman.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2020 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Angelique from Dark Shadows? Lara Parker? I forgot she was in it. Mind you, I haven't seen it since about 1977. Very fond memories of it, what remain of them. Of the cast I was always fascinated by the presence of Warren Oates especially, a terrific actor. On the whole it's probably on a par with THE DEVIL'S RAIN (Ernest Borgnine, William Shatner, Ida Lupino, even John Travolta). Have you seen that one?

RACE WITH THE DEVIL has the added advantage of a great score by Leonard Rosenman.


Yes, Lara Parker, AKA Angelique from "Dark Shadows."

Did "Dark Shadows" air in the UK, and did it include Robert Cobert's music?

Yes, I am a big Laurence Rosenman fan, I mean Leonard Rosenthal.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2020 - 10:02 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

I never saw Dark Shadows on the Beeb or on our regional TV channel, so I'd bet it was never shown, at least not before about 1980 when I began to lose track of things. I had "The Barnabas Collins Joke Book", so I'm fairly sure I'd have remembered the connection to the show.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2020 - 10:13 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I never saw Dark Shadows on the Beeb or on our regional TV channel, so I'd bet it was never shown, at least not before about 1980 when I began to lose track of things. I had "The Barnabas Collins Joke Book", so I'm fairly sure I'd have remembered the connection to the show.

It's a real slog. Best enjoyed as atmospheric background visuals while talking and drinking. No use following the plot or watching in sequence.

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2020 - 1:35 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Nothing wrong with it as a piece of escapist entertainment. With Fonda and Oates put together you couldn't expect much more than the highway centreline whizzing by at speed with stuck-on plot to excuse the blurred scenery.

Besides, the conspiracy theory exposed at its core can't be more stupid than anything that passes for real life?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2020 - 2:02 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Nothing wrong with it as a piece of escapist entertainment. With Fonda and Oats put together you couldn't expect much more than the highway centreline whizzing by at speed with stuck-on plot to excuse the blurred scenery.

Besides, the conspiracy theory exposed at its core can't be more stupid than anything that passes for real life?


Yeah, but they kind of wasted Angelique's talents.

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2020 - 2:10 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

You know more about the details than me, Onya. I thought you were initially referring to the female leads, who I think did pretty good portraying the other halves.

There was the female vocal chant that symbolised the ritual aspect and it definitely had a hint of menace attached. We also hear it at the shock-horror ending, where it is particularly dramatically effective, I think.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2020 - 2:22 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

You know more about the details than me, Onya. I thought you were initially referring to the female leads, who I think did pretty good portraying the other halves.

There was the female vocal chant that symbolised the ritual aspect and it definitely had a hint of menace attached. We also hear it at the shock-horror ending, where it is particularly dramatically effective, I think.


Lara Parker played Angelique, the witch, in Dark Shadows. She was excellent.

IMO, the film should have included her involvement with the Satanic cult. On the other hand, maybe Lara Parker was trying to reinvent herself and just be a nice housewife.

The point is, when you watch a film with "devil" in the title and it stars Lara Parker, it sets up a certain expectation. I wonder how many kids who went to the drive-in were disappointed.

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2020 - 2:37 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

I'm with you now. But I didn't even know about Lara Parker, or that certain expectations would have preceded her appearing in RWTD. That scene is, however, the most serious one in the movie in the sense that Fonda and Oates are just 'innocent bystanders' as accidental onlookers to what they think is a bunch of ravers indulging in some behind the scenes 'wickedness,' and are just having a quiet laugh to themselves. Only when the knife goes down does that, "did you just see THAT" moment, hits the audience just as it does the actors. At that point you turn immediately to the guys thinking that if their wives make any noise, their position is going to give them away. AAAArrrrrggghhh!

Edit: I definitely get it now, Onya, having done some online trawling regarding Lara Parker. You think her part in RWTD was too 'mousy?'

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2020 - 6:32 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Well, thanks for the education, Onya. I was not aware of Dark Shadows. I did get that Johnny Depp was in a relatively recent movie version but I completely missed the TV show and had to research where you were coming from. I've been doing very little besides looking at Lara Parker's stunningly beautiful 60s vision of traditional female beauty. Something the boiler suite brigade would look down on nowadays. No wonder why you referenced her as being underwhelming in RWTD.

But RWTD came about a decade after DS, and Lara had aged a bit over the years. She's still gorgeous in RWTD, but the emphasis is on the guys doing battle with the motor demons giving them chase in their RV. It's Pete and Warren doing the decision-making and taking the lead. Now, if it were done today and Charlize Theron was out in front . . . she'd have joined the chasers and had them licking out of her fingers!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2020 - 6:47 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Well, thanks for the education, Onya. I was not aware of Dark Shadows. I did get that Johnny Depp was in a relatively recent movie version but I completely missed the TV show and had to research where you were coming from. I've been doing very little besides looking at Lara Parker's stunningly beautiful 60s vision of traditional female beauty. Something the boiler suite brigade would look down on nowadays. No wonder why you referenced her as being underwhelming in RWTD.

But RWTD came about a decade after DS, and Lara had aged a bit over the years. She's still gorgeous in RWTD, but the emphasis is on the guys doing battle with the motor demons giving them chase in their RV. It's Pete and Warren doing the decision-making and taking the lead. Now, if it were done today and Charlize Theron was out in front . . . she'd have joined the chasers and had them licking out of her fingers!


Angelique would do these Satanic incantations in which she sounded like she was having an orgasm. She would also look directly into the camera, something that actors generally do not do.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2020 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Angelique would do these Satanic incantations in which she sounded like she was having an orgasm. She would also look directly into the camera, something that actors generally do not do.

Believe me, I'm up to speed. Even know the scene you're referencing because I did my homework OVERNIGHT - bwahhahahaa! wink

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2020 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Ms. Birri and I watched this slice of mid-70s schlock last night.

It was an interesting hybrid of the Satanic horror and a 70s highway chase genres.

It was kind of a waste casting Angelique in a film with Satan worshippers and having her play the victim rather than one of the witches.

It was also nice to see Angelique in a bathing suit.

Any fans of this film?



Yes, I saw it once years ago and really enjoyed it. Fast moving, classic 70s atmosphere... funny, I always found it played like Rosemary's Baby meets Vanishing Point... so pretty much what your reaction was.

Enjoyed it a lot... spooky movie. Great Leonard Rosenman score.

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2020 - 7:09 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Fast moving, classic 70s atmosphere... funny, I always found played like Rosemary's Baby meets Vanishing Point... so pretty much what your reaction was.

Enjoyed it a lot... spooky movie. Great Leonard Rosenman score.


Rosemary's Baby meets Vanishing Point. Why 'n heck didn't I think of that? The score got a release from Intrada, paired with Making Love, but I don't see it around anymore. Now, there's a surprise. On Amazon UK around £60.00.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2020 - 7:23 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

...Rosemary's Baby meets Vanishing Point...

Good description!

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2020 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   msmith   (Member)

I met Lara Parker at a Dark Shadows convention in Los Angeles several years ago.
I asked her how they did the rattle snake scene.
The snakes looked too real to be fake.
She told me they "milked" the snake to draw out the poison and then sewed the snakes mouth shut. All they had to do was toss it on her without worry.
I thinks this is a pretty good film of its kind. Especially since it came out 45 years ago.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2020 - 4:55 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I met Lara Parker at a Dark Shadows convention in Los Angeles several years ago.
I asked her how they did the rattle snake scene.
The snakes looked too real to be fake.
She told me they "milked" the snake to draw out the poison and then sewed the snakes mouth shut. All they had to do was toss it on her without worry.
I thinks this is a pretty good film of its kind. Especially since it came out 45 years ago.


No animals were harmed...

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2020 - 5:15 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

 
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