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 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

In the original ALIEN 3 album track ("The Entrapment") the music for the cooling water that kills the Alien is that shimmeing, cascading string lines alone.

But in the film version (and in the new LLL album, track 4 CD 2 "Gotcha!/I Must Be Going") this music is merged with some bombastic material.

My question: is the version in the album the original version which was "reinforced" with more music in the final version?

The LLL liner notes say nothing about this, but it seems that way.

Which version do you prefer? I like the original better.

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   NSBulk   (Member)

The strings are a separately recorded overlay, presented discretely on the OST.

Neil

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

The strings are a separately recorded overlay, presented discretely on the OST.

Neil


Isn't it the oposite? The strings being the original version and the bombastic music recorde separately for the movie?

Sorry, I made a mistake. The clean string version is on the track "The Entrapment" of the original album, starts at 2:335.

https://youtu.be/09B5tNotbbc

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 10:38 AM   
 By:   NSBulk   (Member)

According to my notes, the strings were recorded separately after the main section.

Neil

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 11:07 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

@ Mr. Bulk: where did you get your avatar? It looks uncannilly like a double integration sign. Very cool. smile

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   NSBulk   (Member)

It's the Soundstream Digital logo. It's an extinct early digital recording format that surpassed and pre-dated CD.

Neil

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

It's the Soundstream Digital logo. It's an extinct early digital recording format that surpassed and pre-dated CD.

Neil


Bingo! Wasn't it on the The Empire Strikes Back LP (re-recording by the NPO)?

In any case, still looks like a double integral. Very cool. smile

Thanks.

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 11:38 AM   
 By:   NSBulk   (Member)

It's the Soundstream Digital logo. It's an extinct early digital recording format that surpassed and pre-dated CD.

Neil


Bingo! Wasn't it on the The Empire Strikes Back LP (re-recording by the NPO)?

In any case, still looks like a double integral. Very cool. smile

Thanks.


Yes indeed. Also "Pops In Space".

Neil

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 11:54 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)



 
 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 12:28 PM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

According to my notes, the strings were recorded separately after the main section.

Neil


Nice, thanks!

Do you know why it appear alone in the original album, track "The Entrapment"?

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 2:08 PM   
 By:   NSBulk   (Member)

No idea, but it works well.

Neil

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 3:19 PM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

No idea, but it works well.

Neil


Indeed. I prefer that way.

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 3:41 PM   
 By:   Wedge   (Member)

IIRC Goldenthal has done this on more than one occasion. I believe there's a "strings only" passage on the BATMAN FOREVER OST, for example. I don't think there's any motive other than, as Neil observed, it sounds good!

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 7:29 PM   
 By:   VeronicaMars   (Member)

It's the Soundstream Digital logo. It's an extinct early digital recording format that surpassed and pre-dated CD.

Neil


Bingo! Wasn't it on the The Empire Strikes Back LP (re-recording by the NPO)?

In any case, still looks like a double integral. Very cool. smile

Thanks.


Yes indeed. Also "Pops In Space".

Neil


Varese's earliest CD titles had this logo too on some of their titles especially the classical ones if I'm right. Nice job Neil bringing this back.

Quick question about Alien 3. What the hardest part putting this assembly together for you Neil?

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2020 - 8:01 AM   
 By:   NSBulk   (Member)

Quick question about Alien 3. What the hardest part putting this assembly together for you Neil?

I don't remember it being that challenging. Maybe figuring out the album assembly?

Neil

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2020 - 8:47 AM   
 By:   William R.   (Member)



This image makes me nostalgic for an era I wasn't even present for!

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2020 - 8:53 AM   
 By:   William R.   (Member)

I also prefer the discrete strings presentation, it was so striking to have the strings take over completely after all that growling, Corigliano-style brass. It probably would have been buried in the film mix in that presentation though.

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2020 - 9:03 AM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

IIRC Goldenthal has done this on more than one occasion. I believe there's a "strings only" passage on the BATMAN FOREVER OST, for example. I don't think there's any motive other than, as Neil observed, it sounds good!

What track is that, do you remember friend?

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2020 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

I also prefer the discrete strings presentation, it was so striking to have the strings take over completely after all that growling, Corigliano-style brass. It probably would have been buried in the film mix in that presentation though.

Yes, I supose the filmakers demanded a more bombastic coda for the Alien...

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2020 - 10:26 AM   
 By:   Seltzer   (Member)

Neil S. Bulk appears 2 times on the FSM forum

 
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