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 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 7:56 AM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

Also, are any of you fans of Matthew Robbins’ Dragonslayer (1981)? Some of you may have seen this already, but it’s been added to Amazon Prime for free viewing in HD. And it looks terrific. I’m trying to convince Paramount to release the film on Blu-ray, but until then (if you’re an Amazon Prime member) at least you can finally see the new HD transfer.

https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/051820-1500

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 8:02 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Also, are any of you fans of Matthew Robbins’ Dragonslayer (1981)? Some of you may have seen this already, but it’s been added to Amazon Prime for free viewing in HD. And it looks terrific. I’m trying to convince Paramount to release the film on Blu-ray, but until then (if you’re an Amazon Prime member) at least you can finally see the new HD transfer.

https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/051820-1500


Hi John,

This is funny, I just watched my old DVD, which looks good as DVD's go, but not as good as I want it to. I enjoyed the gritty, not polished, not CGI-darkly lit quality of this film. The actors are good, the model work and animation are good, the sets and the cinematography are quite good. The score suffers a but with the audio quality here. I was wishing for a bluray, with a whole bunch of extras about the production of the film. Paramount has dropped the ball on this for too many years.

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 10:12 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I picked up the digital HD copy off of iTunes a year or so ago. Looks amazing. Great film at times, slightly flawed other times. A cult classic.

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2020 - 11:45 AM   
 By:   TominAtl   (Member)

Still my favorite "dragon" film and overall the effects are amazing, except perhaps for the background shots in the finale. But I love this movie.

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2020 - 7:50 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Yeah I watched it for the very first time on Prime. Loved it.

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2020 - 9:52 AM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

I was just looking at some Disney DVDs I have.

Fantasia & Fantasia 2000 both look pretty flawless on DVD.
TRON looks fine, and Tron Legacy looks better.

The Black Hole looks terrible being uprezzed from SD. The star fields especially, but the FX work generally suffers.
I should look at my Dragonslayer DVD.

(The high-bit-rate DVD of Aliens looks really good)
(The not-so-thoughtfully mastered 'ST-TMP- The Director's Edition' does not look so good. Hell, DS9 generally looks better)


If you master carefully enough, SD material on DVD will play very nicely on HD TVs, (even star fields and general negative blacks) but you have to give it the care and enough bits to make it happen.

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2020 - 12:22 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Not a fan of the film - which is just overall weird and boring? - but Lord, thats easily the best looking dragon ever made. Definitely worth sitting through the film for that reveal and the ending.

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2020 - 8:28 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I was just looking at some Disney DVDs I have.

Fantasia & Fantasia 2000 both look pretty flawless on DVD.
TRON looks fine, and Tron Legacy looks better.

The Black Hole looks terrible being uprezzed from SD. The star fields especially, but the FX work generally suffers.
I should look at my Dragonslayer DVD.

(The high-bit-rate DVD of Aliens looks really good)
(The not-so-thoughtfully mastered 'ST-TMP- The Director's Edition' does not look so good. Hell, DS9 generally looks better)


If you master carefully enough, SD material on DVD will play very nicely on HD TVs, (even star fields and general negative blacks) but you have to give it the care and enough bits to make it happen.


What makes you think Black Hole is an uprezzed from a SD source? That doesn't even make sense. I agree the star fields are weirdly out of focus for some reason but the rest looks fantastic.

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2020 - 8:30 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Not a fan of the film - which is just overall weird and boring? - but Lord, thats easily the best looking dragon ever made. Definitely worth sitting through the film for that reveal and the ending.

I thought it started out great, then it has highs and lows. The main issue I have with the film is the protagonist is very annoying.

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2020 - 8:32 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Did the movie have a lot of weird, vertical resolution lines running through it on Amazon Prime, or was it just me? Distracting as hell.

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2020 - 10:33 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

I was just looking at some Disney DVDs I have.

Fantasia & Fantasia 2000 both look pretty flawless on DVD.
TRON looks fine, and Tron Legacy looks better.

The Black Hole looks terrible being uprezzed from SD. The star fields especially, but the FX work generally suffers.
I should look at my Dragonslayer DVD.

(The high-bit-rate DVD of Aliens looks really good)
(The not-so-thoughtfully mastered 'ST-TMP- The Director's Edition' does not look so good. Hell, DS9 generally looks better)


If you master carefully enough, SD material on DVD will play very nicely on HD TVs, (even star fields and general negative blacks) but you have to give it the care and enough bits to make it happen.


What makes you think Black Hole is an uprezzed from a SD source? That doesn't even make sense. I agree the star fields are weirdly out of focus for some reason but the rest looks fantastic.


I was looking at my DVDs- I don't have blu-rays of any of these movies I mentioned.
My DVD of The Black Hole is definitely an SD picture and it doesn't up-rez well, on my system at least. I'd buy the blu-ray of The Black Hole (which I'm sure is a 2 or 4k scan) but I don't have $30 for that at the moment.

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2020 - 6:24 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Did the movie have a lot of weird, vertical resolution lines running through it on Amazon Prime, or was it just me? Distracting as hell.

I don't know about on Amazon but not on iTunes/Apple TV.

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2020 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I was just looking at some Disney DVDs I have.

Fantasia & Fantasia 2000 both look pretty flawless on DVD.
TRON looks fine, and Tron Legacy looks better.

The Black Hole looks terrible being uprezzed from SD. The star fields especially, but the FX work generally suffers.
I should look at my Dragonslayer DVD.

(The high-bit-rate DVD of Aliens looks really good)
(The not-so-thoughtfully mastered 'ST-TMP- The Director's Edition' does not look so good. Hell, DS9 generally looks better)


If you master carefully enough, SD material on DVD will play very nicely on HD TVs, (even star fields and general negative blacks) but you have to give it the care and enough bits to make it happen.


What makes you think Black Hole is an uprezzed from a SD source? That doesn't even make sense. I agree the star fields are weirdly out of focus for some reason but the rest looks fantastic.


I was looking at my DVDs- I don't have blu-rays of any of these movies I mentioned.
My DVD of The Black Hole is definitely an SD picture and it doesn't up-rez well, on my system at least. I'd buy the blu-ray of The Black Hole (which I'm sure is a 2 or 4k scan) but I don't have $30 for that at the moment.


I see, I misunderstood your quote.

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2020 - 5:52 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

I looked at parts of my Dragonslayer DVD- It holds up pretty well, about as well as TRON, I suppose. In the final fight in the cave most of the backs look deep and stable (but not all). A respectable mastering job.

 
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