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 Posted:   Jan 24, 2020 - 9:43 PM   
 By:   arthur grant   (Member)



Brace yourself for the next film in Eddie Muller’s Noir Alley: Try and Get Me! a.k.a. The Sound of Fury. The film’s cumulative effect is one of emotional annihilation. Restored in 2012 by the Film Noir Foundation, Hidden Gem #24 has been reviewed here

http://thecinemacafe.com/the-cinema-treasure-hunter/2016/4/25/inspecting-hidden-gem-24-try-and-get-me-aka-the-sound-of-fury

and will make its TCM debut Saturday, January 25 at 9pm PST and repeat Sunday, January 26 at 7am PST. Proceed with caution.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 27, 2020 - 10:18 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Arthur, that was an excellent write up or analysis of the movie. Unfortunately, I missed the first part which showed the actual crime, but I did get to see most of this film. It is hard to watch in places.

I thought Bridges was a complete psycho and didn't care for him. Lovejoy, however, did a fine job of acting and reflected his humanity with his suffering, guilt and remorse. The narrator at TCM did a great job of giving us more information about this film.

Arthur, I do have a question for you. Why do you think Noir films became extinct? Hollywood hasn't made them in years. Is it because of the usage of color in films? Noir films are black and white, and I wonder if color lead to their demise. Just curious about what you think.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2020 - 12:33 AM   
 By:   Mark   (Member)

Hi Joan. I hope you don't mind my two pennyworth on this subject as I'm a film noir fan. Film noirs haven't really died out, they are just called neo-noirs now. For purists you can't have a film noir that isn't black and white, and the film noir period ended around 1958 with Touch of Evil, but non purists are a bit more flexible on this and say that film noirs can be in colour and don't even have to be crime films, ie the Robert Mitchum western Pursued (1947)). Also the non purists are OK with noirs made outside the usual time frame of 1941-58. So I would say if a new film has many of the other film noir tropes (the Femme fatale, the tough anti hero etc) and is still in colour then it qualifies as a neo-noir.... Ie a film noir in all but name. Recent film noirs or neo-noirs include Brick, The last Seduction and the excellent 2011 film Drive.

I would also like to say that a pet hate of mine is to read a review of a 40's crime film and just because it is a crime film in black and white it gets tagged as being a film noir.......nuch more is needed for it to make the film-noir grade.

I would also like to know if anyone knows if these TCM films will make it to TCM in the UK?

 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2020 - 2:51 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

Excellent film and terrific score by Friedhofer.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 28, 2020 - 7:03 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Ray, it was a strong score. I wish I'd listened bit more closely to parts.

Mark, very glad you chimed in. I remember reading books about Noir films many years ago that pointed out all the tropes. It does seem like Noir films have taken the same path as westerns. We get very few westerns now.


I like your examples. I have heard that Motherless Brooklyn is what you call neo-noir, but I haven't seen it yet. I think it comes out in DVD this week.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2020 - 10:30 PM   
 By:   arthur grant   (Member)

Arthur, that was an excellent write up or analysis of the movie. Unfortunately, I missed the first part which showed the actual crime, but I did get to see most of this film. It is hard to watch in places.

I thought Bridges was a complete psycho and didn't care for him. Lovejoy, however, did a fine job of acting and reflected his humanity with his suffering, guilt and remorse. The narrator at TCM did a great job of giving us more information about this film.

Arthur, I do have a question for you. Why do you think Noir films became extinct? Hollywood hasn't made them in years. Is it because of the usage of color in films? Noir films are black and white, and I wonder if color lead to their demise. Just curious about what you think.


Thanks Joan for your supportive response, added thoughts and question. Mark handled your enquiry in an authoritative and almost, I believe, entirely accurate fashion. First off, the subject of film noir is a contentious one even among experts. Even Wikipedia says so! There have been quite a few made after the classic time period (1940 - 1959) called "neo-noir" as Mark rightfully pointed out. A few of the best representatives that come to mind are Point Blank, Get Carter, Red Rock West and Body Heat. One should keep in mind that these U.S. produced crime films made during the previously mentioned "classic period" were not purposely made and were first noticed and identified as such by some French film critics in the mid 40s, for their distinctive qualities largely absent in the crime (or so called "gangster") films of the previous decades. I have written an article which I think you will enjoy that more thoroughly explains the subject called "Plundering the Genre: Film Noir". At the end, you will find a useful list of films, all produced in the U.S. during the classic time period that have been identified as films noir (mostly by others) including some made in colour! I consider some of the best of these to be Niagara, Inferno, Leave Her to Heaven and Violent Saturday. I would include Vertigo, but I do not consider this film to be noir because of its lack of focus on any criminal element. Here's the article: http://thecinemacafe.com/the-cinema-treasure-hunter/2015/7/31/plundering-the-genre-films-noir

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 29, 2020 - 10:37 PM   
 By:   arthur grant   (Member)



I would also like to know if anyone knows if these TCM films will make it to TCM in the UK?



TCM in the U.K. is not run by TCM in the U.S. It's just "in name only" so to speak and why it is so inferior sad to say. There is some help I can provide in this regard, however, and if you contact me at arthur@thecinemacafe.com I'd be happy to oblige.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2020 - 7:17 AM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

Another notable neo-noir is Francois Truffaut's THE BRIDE WORE BLACK. It's a revenge film during which Jeanne Moreau systematically dispatches a group of men, one by one, who were responsible for killing her husband on the cathedral steps right after her wedding. As sort of an in-homage to noir, Moreau's wardrobe throughout is entirely in black, white or both. By the way her husband at the time, Pierre Cardin, designed her wardrobe.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2020 - 2:05 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Arthur, thanks for your response. Your article on Noir movies was excellent and added an important aspect to Noir films and what separates them from the typical 30's gangster movies.

 
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